What brand is this older powder??

[Steel Guitar]

Hello All,
I bought some bp at an estate sale that was in the old mostly white type label metal goex cans but after shooting it comparing to goex 3f I found that it will not group the same. Hence, it is not goex. I'm thinking it is an older brand no longer sold. What brand would it be? It's 3f. Also, what loads with it will shoot good in a 45 percussion rifle?
Thanks for the help.

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

Hard to say! How does anyone know weather or not someone used the cans and dumped any kind of powder in?
Dupont powder used to be in Red and White cans. It was good powder!
Larry

 

[Phil Coffins]

The picture of the can didn’t show for me.

 

[SDSmlf]

Hello All,
I bought some bp at an estate sale that was in the old mostly white type label metal goex cans but after shooting it comparing to goex 3f I found that it will not group the same. Hence, it is not goex. I'm thinking it is an older brand no longer sold. What brand would it be? It's 3f. Also, what loads with it will shoot good in a 45 percussion rifle?
Thanks for the help.

A photograph would help. Guessing you have something that looks like one of these. And before using it, confirm 100% that it is blackpowder. If you are not sure, dump it and save the can.

 

[azmntman]

I have several of those.

 

[Feltwad]

Enclosed are a couple of images off both American and English old black powder tins which may help Please note that these images are to help in solving a question and not for parading has suggested by some members ,
Feltwad
American tins

English powder tins

 

[JamesA]

A photograph would help. Guessing you have something that looks like one of these. And before using it, confirm 100% that it is blackpowder. If you are not sure, dump it and save the can.
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Back in the late 70's, early 80's, the DUPONT was what was available in our area. I haven't seen one of those in ages. Oh, BTW, I was shooting a CVA .45 cal. Kentucky back then, it shot just fine. My .50 cal. is a recent acquisition so I have no idea how well that DUPONT powder would shoot. I was stuck with using Pyrodex at first although different grades with different loads varied a lot, some of it shot quite well.

 

[JamesA]

Enclosed are a couple of images off both American and English old black powder tins which may help Please note that these images are to help in solving a question and not for parading has suggested by some members ,
Feltwad
American tins View attachment 130977

English powder tins
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Ignore those that accuse you of crap like parading. They most likely wish they had a collection like that. It's pretty cool.

 

[Flintlock]

As a rule of thumb, if I didn't open the can I'm not using whatever it is that may be in the can. Could be someone's spills or pipe bomb mix for all I know.

 

[Steel Guitar]

More info. Yes it's in the old goex cans pictured above. But the lids were not real tight and the powder was not chunky. The powder was filled all the way to the very top which manufacturers are about 1" from the top. The powder is 3f and very uniform, i.e, not a mix of different sizes.

 

[Steel Guitar]

Sorry but I don't know how to post pics

 

[Steel Guitar]

I have shoot goex recently from the old cans pictured above.
My best guess is that it is a bp made back from 1965 on.
So brands were available back then ??

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

Sorry but I don't know how to post pics

When you reply, at the bottom left there is a button "Attach files". Hit the button and then it will scan your available photos. Then go from there. I always have my photos to upload on my desktop for easy finding.
Larry

 

[Steel Guitar]

Thanks but I'm not even that smart. Anyway, let's guess it's DUPONT , so, what loads with a ball shoot good yall (you guys, yes, I'm part yankee too)?

 

[jdw276]

Thanks but I'm not even that smart. Anyway, let's guess it's DUPONT , so, what loads with a ball shoot good yall (you guys, yes, I'm part yankee too)?

Mine likes 60 gr 3f, 440 ball, .015 patch.

 

[SDSmlf]

Thanks but I'm not even that smart. Anyway, let's guess it's DUPONT , so, what loads with a ball shoot good yall (you guys, yes, I'm part yankee too)?

DuPont put a lot of different powders in cans over the years, and some folks put different powders in empty cans over the years. Some this forum like to put their blackpowder that comes in plastic containers into their old Goex cans. Make sure it’s blackpowder first. If you are guessing, make sure you have someone hold your beer so none is spilled.

 

[Steel Guitar]

LOL!! SDSmlf, you're like me, and yes it's real bp because it will light with them old brass caps from the "50s will light it and of course it smells SOOOO good! Thanks jdw276,but I'm looking for a lighter target load.

 

[oldwood]

.45 cal. load..........My .45 one turn in 56" target load was 62 gr. FFFG........Very accurate.

 

[jdw276]

LOL!! SDSmlf, you're like me, and yes it's real bp because it will light with them old brass caps from the "50s will light it and of course it smells SOOOO good! Thanks jdw276,but I'm looking for a lighter target load.

Drop to 40 or 45 grain and shoot for group. Heck start with 30 and work up. What yardage? To low and winddrift will get you even more so.

 

[rafterob]

You just need to work up the best load using that powder. Start at 45grains, increase by 5 grain increments and watch for the best group (3-5 shots per group).