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I have a tendency to over-cook my char cloth and wind up with something too fragile for easy use. It catches a spark readily from either flint and steel of a burning lens, but breaks easily in the hand and burns up pretty quickly. The cloth I've used for this for several years is a thick, fuzz cotton stuff used to wrap your broken leg before the cast is put on, cast padding. It has a tough layer in the middle. I tried a small batch yesterday and cooked it less. I usually cook until the smoke mostly stops, but this time I only cooked until the gasses caught fire. The result was char cloth which was black around the edges but still just scorched tan or brown in the middle. It catches a spark very easily in the black part, burns completely through the lighter parts, but that takes a very long time. I'll be doing it this way.



Just for curiosity sake, I tried baking some in my toaster oven 425° for almost half an hour. It wound up dark brown and seemed to retain all it's original strength, tough stuff. I failed completely at catching a spark from flint and steel with it, though, so I guess it needs to bake some more. I did find it easy to ignite it with a burning glass, however, and that is good stuff. It burned completely through, but even with me blowing on it constantly it took almost 2 minutes to do it. That would make an easy job of starting tinder, so I added some of it to my fire kit for those bright sunny days.



I was out splitting some firewood yesterday and found a big clump of the lining material of a squirrel's winter nest on the ground. I was surprised to find that it is made of shredded cedar bark and chopped up dry leaves. Smart little buggers. I tested some of it with my new char cloth and it will obviously work well as tinder, so I packed a little bag of it to try on my next outing.





I had a thought”¦ I could use this stuff as wadding in my smoothbore and shoot a squirrel with it. Would that be fair? :haha:

Spence
 
Yup! Living in the Pacific NW, cedar bark is plentiful...Even in the city. Just pound it between 2 rocks until it is reduced to a very fine fluff--Whenever the squirrels haven't already done the work for you :)

Once cotton has been baked into carbon, it's always going to be brittle. The issue with your char cloth being too brittle is possibly due to the medical fabric you're using????
It sounds like you're doing everything else correctly....
Try "baking" scraps of old bedsheets or denim on your kitchen stove with the exhaust fan going full blast.
Hope this helps
 
Brasilikilt said:
Yup! Living in the Pacific NW, cedar bark is plentiful...Even in the city. Just pound it between 2 rocks until it is reduced to a very fine fluff--
Our cedar is the eastern red cedar, Juniperus virginiana, and you don't need rocks to work it. You can just roll/rub it between your palms for a minute to shred it.

Spence
 
I use charred wood a lot, but not punk wood. I get it before it goes punk, when it's just sorta soft.

Spence
 
I had a thought”¦ I could use this stuff as wadding in my smoothbore and shoot a squirrel with it. Would that be fair? :haha:

Spence[/quote]

'Twould be ironic and bring whole new meaning to, "putting them to bed."
 
George said:
Brasilikilt said:
Yup! Living in the Pacific NW, cedar bark is plentiful...Even in the city. Just pound it between 2 rocks until it is reduced to a very fine fluff--
Our cedar is the eastern red cedar, Juniperus virginiana, and you don't need rocks to work it. You can just roll/rub it between your palms for a minute to shred it.

Spence

Ahh yes! You can do the same with our Western red cedar by pulling off strips of the thin,papery inner bark. This works quite nicely when making cordage. When making tinder, I smash up a section of bark straight off the tree. It's just faster and not quite as tedious as the hand rolling method.
 
When making ' rag tinder' a light cloth is very fragil and can fall apart easy. Heavy cotton like a canvas or duck will stay strong but won't catch spark easy. I like to mix my char. Toasted punk is hc and works well but not all easy to keep a supply of since I moved to town. Tow and hemp fibers work good and I have caught spark on in chared tow. Leaving a brown spot in the center will give you a fire in your fluff pretty quick. I have tried the old method of letting it burn in the tin and clamping the lid down. It leaves burned charred and roared char but I have not mastered it and don't get good results often.
 
Was showing the granddaughter how I made char cloth in the fireplace the other day when it was cold/wintery outside. Thought I let it cook enough, opened the tin to show her and had char cloth start to glow red! It lit itself!

Simple glove pushed down on the glow but the gdaughter sure had wide eyes!

Grandpa, you almost started a fire.
 
You should use the nest as wad , shoot the squirrel , quickly pick up the embers and start a fire to cook said squirrel , then stand on a tree stump tuck your thumbs into your arm pits , flap those arms and crow like a rooster . :wink: :)
 
1601phill said:
You should use the nest as wad , shoot the squirrel , quickly pick up the embers and start a fire to cook said squirrel , then stand on a tree stump tuck your thumbs into your arm pits , flap those arms and crow like a rooster . :wink: :)
Sounds like a plan for my next outing. :grin:

Spence
 
I used to have a supply of the cloth that they use inside of automotive hoses. That was the best char cloth material I've ever used. You could bake it enough to catch a spark but it never fell apart. It was perfect.
 
colorado clyde said:
Have you tried charred punkwood Spence.
It's my favorite.

^^ this but I've also charred saddle fungus [which takes a spark FAST] but one of the best materials I've ever had take a spark EVER was common cotton oil lamp wick:
http://www.amazon.com/Guiding-Light-Oil-Lantern-Stitch/dp/B008LXUHZG

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That chars well and isn't as delicate as other chars.
 
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lol I know. Finding a decent oil that doesn't blacken the glass chimney is pricey too LOL
 
Gee ...what are you using ....Penzoil :haha:

Ask Betty about her lamp :thumbsup:

or Aladin

or the Coleman.

:rotf: 4 puns in one post.....I'm on a roll.
 

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