Ramrod difference??

Ditt44 said:

If you are going to be hunting with your ML, it makes sense to practice with the rod in-place. Keep every single variable as similar as possible. I use a bronze range rod and never pull the 'field' rod when at the range.

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I don't think about ram rods when hunting as reloading is not required if I do my part ,so extra ammo isn't needed .It's a habit!/Ed

waksupi said:

If you are getting that size group at 30 yards, you have bigger problems than if the ramrod is in or out.

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The ramrod thing wasn’t a problem. Just a random thought.

I may get the Renegade dialed in eventually. Maybe, maybe not. Don’t matter, it’s just an old rusty gun I fixed up for a little plinking.

It takes a LOT more than 3 shots to be statistically accurate. Maybe 10 groups would start to show some differences, but more would be better. Then you have to take in atmospheric differences also. Almost too much to think about when you get right down to it.

Banjoman said:

Yep. That’s what I said, ‘30 yards bench rest’. I read it twice to make sure. What did you hear?

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Pete G said:

It takes a LOT more than 3 shots to be statistically accurate. Maybe 10 groups would start to show some differences, but more would be better. Then you have to take in atmospheric differences also. Almost too much to think about when you get right down to it.

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"Almost too much to think about" You are on the money! Also people need to know that a lot of small things can add up to one big thing.

LME said:

Also people need to know that a lot of small things can add up to one big thing.

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True, my friend. Very true.

Pete G said:

It takes a LOT more than 3 shots to be statistically accurate. Maybe 10 groups would start to show some differences, but more would be better. Then you have to take in atmospheric differences also. Almost too much to think about when you get right down to it.

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Go for it hoss! I got rained out. I’m moving on to other stuff now.

Pete G said:

It takes a LOT more than 3 shots to be statistically accurate. Maybe 10 groups would start to show some differences, but more would be better. Then you have to take in atmospheric differences also. Almost too much to think about when you get right down to it.

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I have always shot two or three different groups when sighting in a rifle. All shooting groups does for me is tell me if the rifle and I are working right, thats all. If one or the other is off I address that problem before I continue any farther. If there is the slightest wind I cancel out. If I have personal problems I haven't solved I cancel out. Your equipment , your day and you have to be in as near perfect condition as can be. There are things you and I can't do a lot about. Things like poor eyesight, nervous conditions, old age and the like. If you have one of these conditions you know what will happen to your groups? You can still enjoy your rifles but there is no use thinking you will be as good as you were before? When I was at the top of my game I never stopped trying to improve. That is what kept me going thinking today is the day I will shoot my best! The very worst thing one can do is to get it in ones head that he is the best! There is no one that can't be topped on any given day!