Ramrod difference??

[yonderin]

I agree with your statement and might add that anything added or taken away will effect how a rifle performs.If you can't take something away you can cancel it out by adding weight to the barrel. A thick heavy barrel is used in target rifles because of this very thing. Muzzle loading rifles by their nature are heavy barreled therefore It is logical to think that something the weight of a ram rod should make little difference to the accuracy of the rifle? Am I right? I don't know but I don't worry about the weight of a ram rod when I am shooting>

It wouldn't seem likely just due to the weight which should remain consistent particularly with a non-wooden ramrod. But anything else that might affect the barrel vibrations could.

Right off the top of my head, I can't recall the optimum spot in the barrel harmonics (whip) the projectile should leave the muzzle.

Most important, it's consistent from shot to shot. Whether 5 minutes or 5 days between shots. Anything that changes that should have an effect, even if it still performs to our satisfaction. A number of factors affecting internal ballistics.

 

[Shortfingers]

On a half stock muzzleloader, have you noticed a difference in accuracy with the ramrod in the thimbles vs out of the thimbles when shooting? As soon as I get a chance to shoot again I’ll try it myself. Until then, I’d like to hear from y’all.

I’ve never noticed a difference unless you leave a jag on the end or the ramrod somehow extends past the end of the barrel.

 

[LME]

It wouldn't seem likely just due to the weight which should remain consistent particularly with a non-wooden ramrod. But anything else that might affect the barrel vibrations could.

Right off the top of my head, I can't recall the optimum spot in the barrel harmonics (whip) the projectile should leave the muzzle.

Most important, it's consistent from shot to shot. Whether 5 minutes or 5 days between shots. Anything that changes that should have an effect, even if it still performs to our satisfaction. A number of factors affecting internal ballistics.

I think you misunderstood what I meant by weight? I should have been more clear.
I was refering to the thickness of the barrel not the weight of the ram rod. most muzzle loading Rifles have a thick barrel which does nullify a lot of vibration in the barrel which is what harmonics creates and it can effect accuracy. I used a bull barrel on My Anshultz rifle which I used in competition . The only reason was the bull barrel toned down the harmonics. Muzzle loaders work on the same principle.Does it get rid of all the vibration? I say no it doesn't but then again nothing is 100% even tuners on barrel can't eliminate it all but it can get it so close you will never know it is there! It becomes a non_factor!