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I was curious about that too, maybe it's a spell check on Pietta
1858 Remington New Model Army by Pietta
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The Pietta "Shooters" model is a completely different model from their regular 1858. Back in the day when the regular Pietta 1858 had a welded in front sight stud, the shooters model had a dovetailed front sight and if I remember correctly the dovetailed rammer lug. The frame was forged, line-bored and with the fancy rifling like the original that started slow and ended fast.
It also had a silver-plated trigger guard and the "Remington" address thingy on the top of the barrel. The one I had needed .460 balls. A .457 would chamber with the rammer and the concave rammer would suction pull it right back out of the chamber. If I remember correctly the hammer spur was checkered also. So, you got a lot more for your money over a regular 58. I traded mine up back in the day and sadly traded it off. No way would I pay today's prices for one.
It also had a silver-plated trigger guard and the "Remington" address thingy on the top of the barrel. The one I had needed .460 balls. A .457 would chamber with the rammer and the concave rammer would suction pull it right back out of the chamber. If I remember correctly the hammer spur was checkered also. So, you got a lot more for your money over a regular 58. I traded mine up back in the day and sadly traded it off. No way would I pay today's prices for one.
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That is an absolute beauty. I would have great difficulty in firing that.
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Wouldn’t give you one thin dime…
@blfuller I never had a problem firing anything… I do have a couple I might not get around to firing but that’s not one.
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Ran across this today, and thought it may be of interest to you, a review of the Uberti by Everything Black Powder.
Also, as an aside I received an 1858 Sheriff's model today that I ordered from BudK. Everyone else was out and they offered a 15% off coupon so I got a decent price on it. I noticed a couple of differences between it and my older ones. The grips were really nicely fitted and flush all the way around unlike my others. The site was dovetailed, the first of the six (all Pietta, 2) 8.5" 2) 5.5" and 2) Navy .36s) I own to be like that. The loading lever web was longer and beefier than my other 5.5" and the gun itself seemed to be heavier and a bit larger in some spots than my older ones.
I own mostly Piettas. All my 58s are and I have no complaints, so far.
The video is interesting and has me looking at an Uberti.
To all who may watch this vid: Warning: Adult content - any who believes 4f belongs only in a priming pan may want to look away.
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Great video, thanks for sharing!
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Ran across this today, and thought it may be of interest to you, a review of the Uberti by Everything Black Powder.
Also, as an aside I received an 1858 Sheriff's model today that I ordered from BudK. Everyone else was out and they offered a 15% off coupon so I got a decent price on it. I noticed a couple of differences between it and my older ones. The grips were really nicely fitted and flush all the way around unlike my others. The site was dovetailed, the first of the six (all Pietta, 2) 8.5" 2) 5.5" and 2) Navy .36s) I own to be like that. The loading lever web was longer and beefier than my other 5.5" and the gun itself seemed to be heavier and a bit larger in some spots than my older ones.
I own mostly Piettas. All my 58s are and I have no complaints, so far.
The video is interesting and has me looking at an Uberti.
To all who may watch this vid: Warning: Adult content - any who believes 4f belongs only in a priming pan may want to look away.
TNGhost, are you satisfied with the ‘58 Navy? Have you tried conicals in it?
I’m kinda torn between a .44 Army and the .36 Navy. I’m leaning toward the Navy.
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@Secesh, I ended up with the .36s when I ran across a lightly used one cheap, with an extra cylinder (unmentionable, my first foray into that aspect) for the price of less than just the pistol new, I couldn't resist, and I liked the way it handled with the slightly shorter barrel, and the extra cylinder turned out to be a fun new avenue of experimentation. When compared to the 8" barrel, which the first two I owned had, it was, to me, better balanced and handling.
The Navy, so far as I can tell, uses the same frame and grips as the Army, just the barrel and loading lever are shorter and the shorter barrel has a smaller hole in it. The cylinder also appears the same with the exception of the smaller bore size. I think that arrangement contributes to better balance, although weight-wise they are about the same to me (the smaller holes making up for the weight of the shorter barrel). I always thought the Army was kinda of gangly and front heavy, but that may be due to my spending so much time with modern 4" revolvers. The Navy on the other hand, feels and handles much more to my liking
I liked the .36 it so much I bought a second one NIB from Dixie. As far as reliability, fit and finish, I have no complaints with either. I don't know the history of the first one, but it was like new and showed little or no signs of being fired. Both have performed well for me, with both cylinders. Maybe a cap jam here and there but nothing enough to bring it to mind when speaking of these guns.
The 8" was my first and I never have had any problems with it. I added an 8" brass frame off GB, CVA brand made by Pietta, that came with balls, wads and a powder flask, but haven't shot it much, in deference to its frame. It as well has presented no significant problems, and it is kind of purty with that brass frame and all
After enjoying the handling characteristics of the Navy, I got the urge to try a Sheriff's model and picked one up from Midway thinking it may be even more to my liking. Turned out that I like the Navy better, for handling and recoil as 58s in general have that nasty habit of smacking your middle finger knuckle, especially with stouter loads. The 5.5" version is nice though and I liked it enough to pick the aforementioned one from BudK, that I have yet to shoot, but looking at it has to be one of the better fitted and finished C&B revolvers I have seen.
As far as sights and accuracy, they all have the same sights, and all have had acceptable accuracy for me. The standard .44 has the longest sight radius but to me that is countered by the front heavy nature it has. The .36 shoots accurately with round balls and handles and points the best for me. The Sheriff's model has the shorter sight radius but still shoots accurately when I do my job, with my less than perfect eyes these days, eyesight. All in all, none are "target" guns but keeping a ball on target at fifty yards is no problem, once you get accustomed to the lower point of aim. I have a man sixed silhouette target at the back of my yard at about 46 yds from the deck and I can hit it somewhere in the torso with most every shot with all of them. I have not shot conicals in any of them, and the .36 has its quirks with the "extra" cylinder that the .44 doesn't (thus the experimentation) but that's a story for another place another day.
All of my 58's are Piettas at this point and I am happy with all of them, I guess I have been lucky in that regard. I'd have to say though that the Navy .36s are my favorites despite their quirks with the extra cylinders. Given the review I saw (and posted above) I am not opposed to adding a Uberti to the stable, to date the only one I own is a 1st model Dragoo.
The Navy, so far as I can tell, uses the same frame and grips as the Army, just the barrel and loading lever are shorter and the shorter barrel has a smaller hole in it. The cylinder also appears the same with the exception of the smaller bore size. I think that arrangement contributes to better balance, although weight-wise they are about the same to me (the smaller holes making up for the weight of the shorter barrel). I always thought the Army was kinda of gangly and front heavy, but that may be due to my spending so much time with modern 4" revolvers. The Navy on the other hand, feels and handles much more to my liking
I liked the .36 it so much I bought a second one NIB from Dixie. As far as reliability, fit and finish, I have no complaints with either. I don't know the history of the first one, but it was like new and showed little or no signs of being fired. Both have performed well for me, with both cylinders. Maybe a cap jam here and there but nothing enough to bring it to mind when speaking of these guns.
The 8" was my first and I never have had any problems with it. I added an 8" brass frame off GB, CVA brand made by Pietta, that came with balls, wads and a powder flask, but haven't shot it much, in deference to its frame. It as well has presented no significant problems, and it is kind of purty with that brass frame and all
After enjoying the handling characteristics of the Navy, I got the urge to try a Sheriff's model and picked one up from Midway thinking it may be even more to my liking. Turned out that I like the Navy better, for handling and recoil as 58s in general have that nasty habit of smacking your middle finger knuckle, especially with stouter loads. The 5.5" version is nice though and I liked it enough to pick the aforementioned one from BudK, that I have yet to shoot, but looking at it has to be one of the better fitted and finished C&B revolvers I have seen.
As far as sights and accuracy, they all have the same sights, and all have had acceptable accuracy for me. The standard .44 has the longest sight radius but to me that is countered by the front heavy nature it has. The .36 shoots accurately with round balls and handles and points the best for me. The Sheriff's model has the shorter sight radius but still shoots accurately when I do my job, with my less than perfect eyes these days, eyesight. All in all, none are "target" guns but keeping a ball on target at fifty yards is no problem, once you get accustomed to the lower point of aim. I have a man sixed silhouette target at the back of my yard at about 46 yds from the deck and I can hit it somewhere in the torso with most every shot with all of them. I have not shot conicals in any of them, and the .36 has its quirks with the "extra" cylinder that the .44 doesn't (thus the experimentation) but that's a story for another place another day.
All of my 58's are Piettas at this point and I am happy with all of them, I guess I have been lucky in that regard. I'd have to say though that the Navy .36s are my favorites despite their quirks with the extra cylinders. Given the review I saw (and posted above) I am not opposed to adding a Uberti to the stable, to date the only one I own is a 1st model Dragoo.
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