1st try relief carving, you guess the style

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rootnuke

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This is my first try relief carving. If its so butt ugly you cannot tell who the gunsmith style is then I'm in big trouble.

It needs a little more shaping and a last whiskering.

Please do not use any descriptive terms like, homely, or folksy or primative. I'm still trying to get over my first time engraving incident.

Here goes...

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They look very nice to me, it must have been a tad nerve racking to do, knowing a slip up could wreck the stock and all of your efforts would be lost...

I see nothing but good solid hard work from you, it will reflect in the final product... :applause:

Can't wait to see how it looks when finished, what color stain are you going to use?
 
Well I can't tell you who did that kind of carving but that's only because it's been 20 years or so since I studied the various styles in depth. It is however beautiful work. You should be proud.

Dick
 
Wow!!!!!!!!!!...Beautiful!!!....Is this REALLY your first try?!!!......I can't even draw something like that, yet alone carve! Fantastic, Root, I'd be proud to show something like that around!

Gotta' ask, how does one get started in this? Books? Tutor? I'm sure natural talent in your case.
 
Issac Haines' style, I'd say. Nice job! :applause: Did you use a template for the finial behind the lock and side panels? :hmm:
 
:applause: :applause: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :master: :master:
sometimes you guys make we sick !with me artistic = autistic :p
carving has always been a skill that has always eluded me,which makes me appreciate work like that even more,but i am still very proud of the "plane janes" i built. :: :peace:
 
This is my first try relief carving.
rootnuke,
looks great to me wheather it be your first or 50th. :applause: :applause: :applause: thanks for sharing.
snake-eyes :master: :peace: :) :thumbsup:
 
Don't drink and carve.... bad things can happen. :crackup:
I saw your beer bottle and had to poke a little fun. It's looks extremely nice for a first try. I can tell you must have practiced a lot.

SP
 
very nice rococo , templates or did you free hand them? .
as to the maker ,, many many well know makers did rococo and baroque carving on their rifles some of the better known ones were Haines, Armstrong, Whitworth or Noll.
currently Isaac Haines designs and rifles have become very popular and for good reason so without seeing the total rifle I would have to agree with tiger and say Haines.
looks to be good solid, clean work on this end .
keep pushing on and let us see it when you get done.
 
I recognized it right away.
It is the distinctively creative work of Rootnuke.
It has the form and fashion of this nuvo/retro budding and accomplished craftsman.
 
Rootnuke: Don't worry about all the errors you made. See most artists make mistakes and worry about them but then they are the only ones who know what they are. Just get better each time and let those of us who can't do such nice work praise such pretty labor. I bet that first sentence got some people going and thought I was hitting on you. I carve horn and it just gets better the more you do. You can carve my stocks for me if you wanted to anytime. About 5 more and the waiting list will get long.
Merry Christmas
Fox
 
Ok, those that said Issac Haines are correct! It's nice to know it looked good enough to recognize it as Haines.

There were a couple of questions asked so here is an attempt to answer them...

Is this the first time I have ever carved?
Yes. Aside from "whitlin" while setting on the from porch at age 9 that was about the extent of my carving experience.

What kind of tools were required?
You can buy a standard assortment of 8 carving chisels from various ML suppliers and wood working shops. These chisel kits advertise that this is all you will need to get started. Well unless you are way more talented than I, you will need atleast another 15 chisels of varying sizes. Some you will use constantly others only once in a blue moon. Bottom line, be prepared to spend 200.00 for are your chisels and sharpening stones. At $25-60 for fine chisels, not to mention $300.00+ for fancy chisel sharpening systems you could easily rack up some major bucks in carving tools. On one end of the scale you can poor-boy it at 100.00 or go ape 1000.00, your choice, your budget.

Did you use a template to create your carving or did you draw free-hand? :blah:
I think TSU Tiger was the first to ask this... The only thing I can say initially is if your not talented you have to make up for lack of talent with innovation. I could of sat there and looked back and forth, and back and forth and back and forth and eventually drew what I needed to draw from the very poorly detailed pictures I had in reference books. And I did. Then I says to myself, THIS IS CRAP! :curse: So I used what I considered innovative but seemed to of discovered what probably what everyone else does. YES friends I used a template. ::

I scanned from the Rifles of Colonial America book all the pictures I needed into my computer. Then I made multiple copies of each picture and increased the size in 10% increments. I cut out the carving and placed the cut-outs on the rifle in the appropriate places and traced the cut-outs. Once I had the basic outline of the carving it was a slam dunk in filling in the carving with detail. Once I had the detail in place I began carving.

Here are some photos...

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My initial print of the carving from original photos with the carving portions cutout.

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The initial print of the stock carving with various cut-outs I used.

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The cut-outs placed on the stock.

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The forearm stock template

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The forearm carving.

ok, so thats it. I appreciate the compliments. I hope that this first time effort encourages others the try a little carving themselves.

one hint, spend alot of time sharpening your tools. If you attempt a cut with a dull tool your just gonna smash the wood in and not cut it clean. smashed wood = splintering and a big fat ugly mess!!! :cry:

and yes the beer helps, but only if you drink it the way I do. It takes me 3 hours to drink one beer. I leave the beer on the bench just far enough to where I have to get up to reach it. I never want to get up while I'm carving so it just sets there. So when I do get up to stretch and get a different look at what I'm doing, it sure does taste good...HOT, but good. ::
 
rootnuke,
checked your webb site and IMHO you are doing a very good job putting it together. very informative :imo:
HAPPY HOLIDAYS
snake-eyes :master: :applause: :peace: :) :thumbsup:
 
Your rifle is really turning out nice. I will be frequenting your site when I get home as I will be doing similar projects. I appriciate your documentation.
 
Redleg130th,
watch your backside and keep your powder dry.
hope you will have the happiest of holidays even considering where you are at. tell all the troops they are on our minds daily.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING
snake-eyes :master: :peace: :peace: :) :thumbsup:
 
Great work! let me know where to get on your waiting list.


Redleg130th I have sent some magazines to the troops over seas and if you would like to recieve some ( such as fur fish and game . outdoor life , field and stream ect.) send me a pvt msg with your address and I would be more than glad to forward them to you.
God Bless the troops and you are all in our thoughts and prsyers/ Get home safely and soon
and have a Merry Christmas
 
Here's what things look like after two weekends of whiskering, modeling and sanding. I still have one more whiskering, sanding, modeling and final cleanup. :redthumb:

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:master: Rootnuke:

REALLY nice work!!
A couple of questions when you have time to reply:
How did you apply the templates to the surface and how did you transfer the inside lines to the wood?
How do you avoid softening the raised detail when you sand and whisker? What's your whiskering process?
Did you scrape any of the larger areas instead of sanding?
What's that small hole that appears below and left of the cheekpiece?
What brand of beer do you drink? (I will take advantage of any edge I can get)
 
:master: Rootnuke:

REALLY nice work!!
A couple of questions when you have time to reply:
How did you apply the templates to the surface and how did you transfer the inside lines to the wood?
How do you avoid softening the raised detail when you sand and whisker? What's your whiskering process?
Did you scrape any of the larger areas instead of sanding?
What's that small hole that appears below and left of the cheekpiece?
What brand of beer do you drink? (I will take advantage of any edge I can get)

How did you apply the templates to the surface and how did you transfer the inside lines to the wood? I just held the template down with one hand and drew the outline with a pencil with the other hand. As for the inside lines I just drew those free-hand by looking back and forth between the template/full size printed copy of original gun. The bad thing about the pictures is that they are not crisp and I had to use my imagination as to how the shapes would be filled.

How do you avoid softening the raised detail when you sand and whisker? I don't. Everytime I whisker I go over the whole gun, carving and all. At 2 hours a night Monday-Friday I can sand and shape the whole gun from one end to the other. So it takes me 10 hours of sanding shaping and whiskering once alcohol is applied to raise the grain. This will be my final whisker of 3.

What's your whiskering process? I hang the stock from a piece of SS wire and pour isopropal alcohol over it. This process removes any hand oil or inlet compound residue. I also wear latex gloves while sanding, carving etc. The alcohol dries really fast and after hanging overnight is ready to go the next morning.

Did you scrape any of the larger areas instead of sanding? I scrape the smaller 1" square areas, but larger areas are sanded at 400 grit. There are some that say scraping makes the wood "sharper" and is 100% PC. They are probably right. I thing I'd rather sand to 800 gri than scrap. However there are just things that scrapping will do for you that no other process will.

What's that small hole that appears below and left of the cheekpiece? Triggerguard pin hole. The forward pin for the triggerguard is hidden beneath the sideplate and lock assembly.

What brand of beer do you drink? Miller Light so I can maintain my "girly figure" If thats not available then anything I can find.

Hope this helps! :thumbsup:
 

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