Well we all shot our bears yesterday the 1st day or bear season. We shot 7 bears total. I shot mine with my .58 virginia rifle right through both shoulder blades, it fully penetrated and the bear dropped in its tracks. My bear was a cinnimon colored black bear with a tan strip down it's back and a diamond on it's chest, I hunt with 3rd generation bear hunters and none of them have seen anything like it, it'll receive a full body mount, unfortunatly the only pics I got were cell phone, didn't get in till 4am last night. we might take a group photo with the capes I guess that is the only option now.