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So what's the closest todays tobacco they would have sold at the Rendezvous?
A Virginia, I don’t think Cavandash developed his smoke until early nineteenth century. A burly and A Maryland would be good
A naval flake or a twist would get you close to the quality of an average smoke.
Navy flask will have a rum flavor as it was packed, wet with rum and pressed.
A storage in a ceramic jar was common and it could be dampened making a humidifier, but the average Joe would have a twist and might be a might dry.
They were choosy. Best came from upper leaves, lower leaves was the cheap stuff.
 
So not as knowledgeable about this stuff as you fine fellas, the blend I smoke now is 2/3rds cavendish and a rum flavored something another. It’s a local mix called the “crows mix”. Would that lean towards English?

RM
No, it would be classified under aromatic blends. English blends use Virginia tobacco as a base, and add Turkish, Syrian, Cyprian, and sometimes Perique tobaccos to the recipe. The most notable tobacco used in English blends is one that has a smokey, musky aroma called latakia (la-ta-KEE-ah). I smoked such blends for many, many years.

Lately I've switched over to Virginia/Perique blends. Perique is a fermented tobacco unique to St. James Parish, LA.
 
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I think a good "smokey/earthy" smelling and tasting "Baltic Blend" is probably my favorite....
My dad smokes a pipe or cigar occasionally too and says he can't tell if my Balkan Blend reminds him more of a "damp barn" or "smoked meat" smell, lol.
For cigar smokers, this pipe tobacco is very similar to the "Kentucky Fire Cured" or "real mowat" cigars.
 
I have been looking for a pipe tobacco with a strong licorice scent like the Avanti Anisette cigars.
Have tried a few that were supposed to be anisette but were not string enough.
 
I smock Premium Cigars and do order from B&B out of Virginia for my Padron 3000 and 4000 Style Cigars In Natural and Maduro…they send me 10% off coupons now and again there is shipping but no tax if your not from Virginia. Smoking one right now as I am enjoying writing this tid bit.:thumb:
 
Smoked a pipe for a few years in the 80s until an old timer that ran a lot of work told me he wouldn't hire a pipe smoker. He claimed to much time fooling around with his pipe instead of installing pipe. Since then I roll my own and use pipe tobacco because of the price per pound. From what I understand pipe tobacco is taxed less than cigarette tobacco.
 
I am 90+ and I stopped using tobacco 36 years ago. Just sayin' Dale
darn smart move Dale Lilly. Would have punched my ticket at 48 in “89” if I’d kept using it. LOL. And at the price of tobacco today it would have been a $30 a day habit. Course that was cigarettes not pipe or chewing tobacco.
 
darn smart move Dale Lilly. Would have punched my ticket at 48 in “89” if I’d kept using it. LOL. And at the price of tobacco today it would have been a $30 a day habit. Course that was cigarettes not pipe or chewing tobacco.
Yeah, I could certainly have bought some sweet MLs and taken a few more hunting trips 😁 oh .... and I have. Polecat
 
I smoked a cigar given to me last week. Very nice. First one in years! I stopped smoking years ago(25) because of the problems associated wtih it. I worked in NYC on Wall St (water n wall) and the building was smoke free, so you had to take an elevator 35 floors down to get outside! Do you know how long that takes and then smoke, and return!! No way that would work. So,that pretty much ened that bad habit along with, It took to much time, everyone complained, most places started banning it, just one problem after another, oh and don't let anyone tell you they never burned the furniture or a good piece of clothing! Way too costly today, and the health hazards are just not worth it.(IMHO)
 
So what's the closest todays tobacco they would have sold at the Rendezvous?
Well luckily, tobacco hasn't undergone too much of a tech revolution in the finished product, but improvements have been more in control of consistency and improvement in storage to prevent loss of the product, SO if you look around a bit, you will find stuff that is likely quite close to what folks actually had even as far back as the AWI.

Here's a basic answer..., simply because tobacco makers have their own specific steps to producing each version, and this answer leaves out the nitty gritty stuff that varies from company to company. They had leaf, rope or twist tobacco, flake tobacco, and plug. Short Answer: You want flake or rope/twist for pipe smoking, that uses American, Virginia and/or Kentucky tobacco... no tobacco grown outside of the United States in the mix...., for rondezvous.

Detailed Answer (and a lot of this is my opinion) :

So leaf tobacco was simply cured but not further processed tobacco. This is likely what the tobacco farmer and his neighbors smoked. After the tobacco was air cured and aged a bit in the barn, it could be crumbled and used in a pipe. Leaf could be cut lengthwise, into ribbon tobacco which was then made into cigars. (this can be tough to find as usually it source is the tobacco farm, itself)

Rope or twist was just that, cured tobacco that was twisted into a rope shape and wound around a spindle on a small platform. It further aged as such and was also easy to ship. Shipping the stuff to England or Europe was how the "flavored' varieties such as rum, whiskey, cherry [brandy] flavored tobacco came about. The tobacco would be infused with the liquor to ward off insects, and would dry during the voyage and perhaps further storage when it reached its destination. The smoker would buy a portion of the "rope" cut off. It might be in discs, it might be a section that the smoker had to cut into discs and then rub to make it resemble what we today call "shag" to smoke it. In a shop in a town it might be reduced already from the rope into a smokable condition.

Flake was the same idea as rope but it was leaves of tobacco stacked and compressed and often resembled a block. Slices off the sides would be sold as Flake tobacco. Like rope, liquor could be added to the leaves prior to pressing as a form of preservative.

Both twist/rope and flake travelled well back in the day. Modern pipe tobacco is "shag" and it is done that way for two reasons. First, it's ready to pack into the pipe and to smoke. Saves time for the smoker. Second, it is super easy for a tobacconist to blend many different types of shag to give the smoker just what the smoker likes, and fitting the style of pipe and smoking style. (Shag also became popular when the cigarette became the rage, as it does very well when rolling-your-own as was the practice. From what I've read it really wasn't around until the cigarette was around) Shag doesn't store or ship well compared to twist/rope or flake, without some modern tech.

Some fellows prefer a shorter stemmed pipe, some a longer stem, some like a various amounts of bend in the stem, and some don't. Some smokers smoke the tobacco rather fast compared to others. So the blend of the shag tobacco not only is of flavor, but of burning quality and the smoker's perception of the "heat" they experience.

So again look for a flake, or a "twist/rope" that uses American grown tobacco. BUT beware as you will find twist/rope that is made from chewing tobacco..., not for smoking in my opinion. Flake are slices of a "plug" but don't confuse that with plug for chewing, again as that is not for smoking.

As for flavorings well those based on liquor would be what was around back then.

To save some cash, you can look for "ready-rubbed" versions of flake. This is proper flake tobacco, but I suspect that the sellers take the perfectly good end bits that the purists would reject because of how they look, and these ends are then "rubbed" to be ready for smoking as soon as the buyer opens the package. Smokes and tastes exactly the same as the more expensive and pretty leaves of flake tobacco. Take advantage of that if you wish.

LD
 
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Well luckily, tobacco hasn't undergone too much of a tech revolution in the finished product, but improvements have been more in control of consistency and improvement in storage to prevent loss of the product, SO if you look around a bit, you will find stuff that is likely quite close to what folks actually had even as far back as the AWI.

Here's a basic answer..., simply because tobacco makers have their own specific steps to producing each version, and this answer leaves out the nitty gritty stuff that varies from company to company. They had leaf, rope or twist tobacco, flake tobacco, and plug. Short Answer: You want flake or rope/twist for pipe smoking, that uses American, Virginia and/or Kentucky tobacco... no tobacco grown outside of the United States in the mix...., for rondezvous.

Detailed Answer (and a lot of this is my opinion) :

So leaf tobacco was simply cured but not further processed tobacco. This is likely what the tobacco farmer and his neighbors smoked. After the tobacco was air cured and aged a bit in the barn, it could be crumbled and used in a pipe. Leaf could be cut lengthwise, into ribbon tobacco which was then made into cigars. (this can be tough to find as usually it source is the tobacco farm, itself)

Rope or twist was just that, cured tobacco that was twisted into a rope shape and wound around a spindle on a small platform. It further aged as such and was also easy to ship. Shipping the stuff to England or Europe was how the "flavored' varieties such as rum, whiskey, cherry [brandy] flavored tobacco came about. The tobacco would be infused with the liquor to ward off insects, and would dry during the voyage and perhaps further storage when it reached its destination. The smoker would buy a portion of the "rope" cut off. It might be in discs, it might be a section that the smoker had to cut into discs and then rub to make it resemble what we today call "shag" to smoke it. In a shop in a town it might be reduced already from the rope into a smokable condition.

Flake was the same idea as rope but it was leaves of tobacco stacked and compressed and often resembled a block. Slices off the sides would be sold as Flake tobacco. Like rope, liquor could be added to the leaves prior to pressing as a form of preservative.

Both twist/rope and flake travelled well back in the day. Modern pipe tobacco is "shag" and it is done that way for two reasons. First, it's ready to pack into the pipe and to smoke. Saves time for the smoker. Second, it is super easy for a tobacconist to blend many different types of shag to give the smoker just what the smoker likes, and fitting the style of pipe and smoking style. (Shag also became popular when the cigarette became the rage, as it does very well when rolling-your-own as was the practice. From what I've read it really wasn't around until the cigarette was around) Shag doesn't store or ship well compared to twist/rope or flake, without some modern tech.

Some fellows prefer a shorter stemmed pipe, some a longer stem, some like a various amounts of bend in the stem, and some don't. Some smokers smoke the tobacco rather fast compared to others. So the blend of the shag tobacco not only is of flavor, but of burning quality and the smoker's perception of the "heat" they experience.

So again look for a flake, or a "twist/rope" that uses American grown tobacco. BUT beware as you will find twist/rope that is made from chewing tobacco..., not for smoking in my opinion. Flake are slices of a "plug" but don't confuse that with plug for chewing, again as that is not for smoking.

As for flavorings well those based on liquor would be what was around back then.

To save some cash, you can look for "ready-rubbed" versions of flake. This is proper flake tobacco, but I suspect that the sellers take the perfectly good end bits that the purists would reject because of how they look, and these ends are then "rubbed" to be ready for smoking as soon as the buyer opens the package. Smokes and tastes exactly the same as the more expensive and pretty leaves of flake tobacco. Take advantage of that if you wish.

LD
Excellent treatise
 
I smoked a cigar given to me last week. Very nice. First one in years! I stopped smoking years ago(25) because of the problems associated wtih it. I worked in NYC on Wall St (water n wall) and the building was smoke free, so you had to take an elevator 35 floors down to get outside! Do you know how long that takes and then smoke, and return!! No way that would work. So,that pretty much ened that bad habit along with, It took to much time, everyone complained, most places started banning it, just one problem after another, oh and don't let anyone tell you they never burned the furniture or a good piece of clothing! Way too costly today, and the health hazards are just not worth it.(IMHO)
I truly loved smoking that pipe. Had quite a collection too, several in the upper cost bracket. Still have them. Thought the wife threw them away but several years ago found them hidden in the basement. They still smelled like Captain Black tobacco.

As to burning holes, the pipe was great for that, especially when driving with the windows down. Most of my shirts had tiny holes in the front b
 
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