Building Rifles

[Smoke Pole]

Greetings one and all, I started a thread regarding paper cartridges for Sharps, which has migrated into another topic, so I thought it best to start another discussion. I am a hobby machinist and am building a high wall from billet. This has proven to be an arduous chore and I still am facing the color case hardening and the slow rust bluing. If anyone else is depraved enough to invest his time and effort in something like this, I would be more than willing to share what I have learned the hard way to help them out and more than willing to accept constructive advice on this project. I say let's build some guns.

 

[Voyageur]

What are using for patterns Smoke Pole?

Voyageur

 

[Smoke Pole]

Howdy,
Been gone for a while - puter broke. I managed to get hold of a set of blue prints for the Winchester High Wall from that I made templates of 1/8 inch aluminum, then drilled a couple of critical holes, doweled the template to the stock which was blued with lay-out blue then scribed a line and start filing, slow but effective.

 

[Zonie]

SmonePole: Just curious. Doesn't someone making a cartridge gun have to have a Federal Licence? I know that one of the reasons I make Penn guns is they fall into the antique muzzleloader catagory where BTAF can't tread.

 

[musketman]

quote:Originally posted by 'zonie:
SmonePole: Just curious. Doesn't someone making a cartridge gun have to have a Federal Licence? I thought you only needed an FFL to deal and sell cartridge firearms, not make them...

I'm posing the same question...

 

[Zonie]

My reason for asking is I was told by a local gunsmith that I could work on my own cartridge guns as much as I want but I could not even work on a friends or neighbors gun unless he "sold" it to me for a few days. (Here in 'Zonie we still can sell modern guns to any resident without a Dealers help).
This gunsmith is a good friend and wasn't looking for work when he told me this.
I also note in the Shotgun News etc whenever they are selling any reciever (not barrels/triggers/sights etc) they clearly say FFL REQUIRED.

If there is some nice loophole, I would like to know.

 

[musketman]

Besides Federal laws chiseled in stone, the state to state laws may differ too...

Gun control is (as we, the general shooting public sees it) out of control.

 

[Haggis]

Take the time to read the following article:

http://www.sixgunner.com/backissues/guests/r&dreview.htm

Off topic but it should answer some questions about loop holes.

 

[Chuck Deaton]

From a liability stand point, unless you are insured, working on a gun that does not belong to you is not a good idea. Someone gets injured, goes to the hospital, can't pay the bill, the hospital starts looking and sues everybody that touched the gun.

 

[Smoke Pole]

It is true that it is against the law to work on anyone elses firearm unless you have an FFL license. I also understand it is against the law to give someone ammunition as a present. The way the law was explained to me by an individual who has a manufacturers license is; you must have a Federal Manufacturers License if you intend to sell your product, but if you are making it for your own use, all that is required is you stamp your name and address on the barrel (hence Colt Pattern Firearms Hartford Connecticut). If you were to sell this firearm, I think you would be getting into a grey area, not to mention at last check the insurance premium for liability was $2,600 a month. Again, this is to the best of knowledge from what I consider a reliable source, and I do not intend to sell my high wall, so I will let the heirs of the estate worry about that.