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I found an article readin the other night! Amer. Rifle I believe. It had students and criminals getting "community service credit ", necessary for HS graduation or not going to jail, for joining anti gun/hunting protests!! Illinois, I believe.
By cleverly phrasing the pending statute "natural AND unnatural bait" they outlawed hunting, didn't they!! Everyting in the woods is natural bait? The NRA might send some help?
 
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Managing perception and minimizing images or acts that you know could cause a negative backlash in the general public's eye.

An example I remember growing up in the cold north country back in the 40's-50's is how commonplace it was for a hunter to come home from a hunt with a nice buck tied across the hood/fender of a car, hung it in the yard, displayed it, proud of it, etc.

Now you need to be inconspicuous and not draw attention to yourself...out of sight, out of mind from the public
 
Take a look at Britain. You can't bowhunt there. Ruled illegal because it's "inhumane". Home of the English longbow and you can't hunt with it there. Cannot even possess hunting type broadheads unless you can prove a "need" for it, as far as I recall reading. They just banned using dogs for hunting---which includes the famous English foxhunt.

This is the kind of thing we're up against. Our heritage is at stake. Perhaps it's time to fight fire with fire. I think that anti-hunters are not being "culturally sensitive" to our needs. It's time they went for some sensitivity training. Since hunting is our heritage, it is, therefore, part of our culture. Therefore, stopping us from hunting would be a "hate crime". Sounds funny, but no one has tried that tactic yet. It's a true tactic. Hunting is a common heritage of all races at one time or another. Therefore, hunting is no different than getting in touch with other cultural roots such as growing taro in the case of native Hawaiians. Being as there are elaborate religious ceremonies regarding hunting in quite a number of traditional religions, including those of pre-Christian Europeans, even a religious basis could be made. (In fact, there were once also some special Christian blessings given to hunters in some countries.) Once you begin to validate hunting as more than a sport, the antis are going to have a hard time justifying their positions without landing smack dab in the pitfall of their own making, that pitfall being political correctness. Political correctness holds it is wrong to attack or criticize a culture or cultural phenomena or a religion. It's easy to attack what is perceived as a sport. Attacking a heritage or culture would be something else entirely.
 
"It's easy to attack what is perceived as a sport. Attacking a heritage or culture would be something else entirely."

Are you suggesting that even the much disliked ACLU would be forced to "ante-up", or fold their cards?
Russ
 
Thanks for not giving up Captchee. Your absolutely right. It's public perception. Groups like Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and others are doing a great job. We need to point out how they are supported mostly by hunters and how much they have done for the animal habitat. I wish all these organizations would set aside a budget to pool together and put out the positive information campain. I'd also like to see them get into the trenches and use the "P" word. "Political"

Some may a may not agree with the NRA, however they are one of the most powerful lobbies in the nation. We need to take back out countryside from the anti's and the enviromental extremist!

The only PETA folks I like are the ones that believe PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals.

:crackup:
 
Funny thing about the difference between a hunter and an "environmentalist". A hunter has had to attend a hunter education/safety class to get a license. An enviromentalist only needs to call his/herself "environmentalist" to be one. No training or education required.
 
Funny thing about the difference between a hunter and an "environmentalist". A hunter has had to attend a hunter education/safety class to get a license. An enviromentalist only needs to call his/herself "environmentalist" to be one. No training or education required.

Actually, some "enviromentalists" are now attending camps on how to terrorize, damage, destroy and sometimes cause serious injuries to those that oppose them.
 
well, we've gotten off topic, somewhat....but I agree with all of your sentiments on hunting...one more "baiting" story: one of the problems is inconsistency in defintion and enforcement. If you spread seed in a field before dove hunting, the feds will get you. If you hunt over a farmers grain field it is OK. If you plant the grain specifically to attract doves it is OK. To me the first case is illegal baiting, the last case is legal baiting and the middle one is legal hunting over bait! :rolleyes:
 

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