holy cow what a gun

[Story]

http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/mlexperiments/antique_guns/purdey_howdah/howdah.html

Read about large bore double pistols, particularly the recoil effects (last paragraph)

 

[faw3]

Ya kind of lost me on the muzz loasing pistol cant be cut down? You mean from a gun that wasnt a muzz loader to start with? Or ?? What I couldnt figure for the longst was why you cant have a smooth bore revolver (none ml) cause you got a 6 shot 410 shotgun if it's 45 long colt (you still have to trim the shells) fred :hatsoff:

 

[Bob Riegl]

:grin: I still have a Hubley Pistol from my youth---it is a large double barreled cap lock type with a set of faux Ivory grips and all kinds of cast "engraving". The original box shows a Caribbean "Pirate" boarding a ship replete with eye-patch cutlass, beard---in a mad scene pell mell battle. Yes I saved my Tom Mix revolvers and holster set as well. Nice old toys bring back lot's of memories---I saw Howdah pistols in the old Abercrombie & Fitch Gun department many, many years back---impressive beasts. :hatsoff:

 

[Lone Carabiner]

That is a beautiful piece of work, do you know the details? rifled or smoothy? Where made, I'm guessing Germany? Caliber.

 

[Lone Carabiner]

There is such a revolver made, was in NRA publication few years back, smoothbore with a screw in rifling section for use with the .45 colt slug

 

[Lone Carabiner]

If a rabbit - ear hammer style was welded up and finished well enough maybe it could be passed off as completely made from scratch, adapting the firing pin to a nipple would not be a really difficult task. A person can make pretty much whatever they care to if I recollect right, you just can't make 'em and sell without BATF registration

 

[Story]

You can not cut a breech loading long arm down to a pistol length breechloader, without proper approval and registration.

As for welding up a breechloader so that it can't function with cartridges, I dunno.

It'd be easier (legally and logistically) to find a reproduction double barrel percussion shotgun, cut to pistol length and fit flint locks, if that's what you want.

 

[TN.Frank]

Appparently it's technically illegal to make a breechloading gun into a muzzleloader. Not sure about the reasoning behind that

Not true at all. The H&R Huntsman and the T/C Encore both can take muzzleloading barrels or ctg. barrels on the same frame. Also, there's a more then a few ctg. convert cylinders on the market to convert a cap n' ball revolver to a ctg. gun. :v

 

[TN.Frank]

If you're talking about a modern breechloader shotgun the BATF might have something to say about it. :nono:

I was talking about a modern, muzzleloading shotgun, not a breech loader. geeze. :shake:

 

[Story]

For those of you looking for inspiration, in the French style:

An original, on auction[url] http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=55148409[/url]

And a very nice reproduction, by Mr. Donelson[url] http://www.donelsoncustommuzzleloaders.com/pistols.html[/url]

Note his comment -
This project is shown as an example of my work, but is not something I'm eager to duplicate at this time. :grin: :bow:


And the Rifle Shoppe kit page -[url] http://www.therifleshoppe.com/(603).htm[/url]

 

[WRussell]

If you're referring to the double barrel pistol that Harbormaster posted, it's mine (he snagged a photo I had posted a few weeks ago), and it's by Wogdon, one of the more famous English duelling pistol makers. It's a smoothbore, about .57 caliber, made around 1790 as a guess.

 

[WRussell]

Appparently it's technically illegal to make a breechloading gun into a muzzleloader. Not sure about the reasoning behind that

Not true at all. The H&R Huntsman and the T/C Encore both can take muzzleloading barrels or ctg. barrels on the same frame.... :v

Yep, I wasn't paying attention to what I was typing. What I meant was, the only legal beagle text I've seen on the subject says you cannot take a breechloader and cut it down to pistol size and make a muzzle loader out of it. As mentioned, if the breech is welded up I can't see as how there's a problem, but the law says nothing about what you do to make it a muzzle loader. To me, if it's a muzzle loader, you can't load it from the breech, else all breech loaders are muzzle loaders.

I have some interest in the legal aspects, since I did that once upon a time (used silver braze instead of weld).