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Hey Oomcurt,

I believe you have stumbled onto something rather unique! Renewable bear fat, I love it but we can keep PITA out of it I guess they might not understand about renewable resources like they don't understand about deer hunting too.

I can see it all now, yes and I know just the Vet who would be willing to do it. If we can get enough bears, in their winter slumber of course, we might even put in a pipeline much like a sugar bush and suck all the fat from the poor animals just before they wake. We wouldn't want to releive them of their precious fat too early. Then it could be channeled down the hill to the rendering station where it could be bottled sold and we will be millionares YEHA. ( Alll that would have sounded better if what's his name was screaming it, you know the guy that was running for pres and lost due in no small part to his ranting and raving. ) Perhaps we could use him as a marketing ploy, our spokesman, oh boy can't wait.

rabbit03
 
Like I said, I've never used hog lard (nor bear grease nor mutton tallow) so I have no first hand experience with it. I'm only reporting what I have been told. As I understand it, store bought lard has salt in it (a preservative?) and this makes it corrosive to metal. If you're rendering your own, you won't have that problem. On one of the Mark Baker videos, he is rendering down hog lard for use in his gun.

I have been told by a fellow in PA that I built a few guns for that bear grease is the BEST for cooking (though he is not wild about the smell). Bar none. We ain't got no bears here no more... :(
 
Just my opinon, but if it makes good biscuits, I'd buy Wonder-Lube and use the lard to ::make biscuits.
 
Hi Walker357 I tend to agree with you as do other of my shooting mates. We just need to use the wonder lube and forget the hog lard and be done with it. :)

rabbit03
 
Greetings Walker357,

Well, you really take the fun out of all this with facts. ::

Who ever heard of such a thing. Introducing facts into a serious discussion like this one, :curse:

And here I thought Rabbitt03 had made a Pulitzer Prize winning discovery and contribution to economics, the environment, and world peace, not to mention carrying on with historical tradition (or is that hysterical tradition). ::

Fact should never interfere with local legends or homemade formulas. :master:

And Rabbitt03; I am extremely dissappointed in you for not sticking to the convictions of your great discovery. :nono:

A severe reprimand is in order. :eek:

Your library card is hereby revoked for an in definate period of suspension.:cry:

Let this be a warning to ALL who dare to try to inject fact into these discussions.:nono:

Be warned Walker357! :: You are being closely watched and monitored.:eek:


John L. Hinnant
 
Hi John L. Hinnant sorry for letting you down ol boy. I grew weary of my hog fat idea and thought it may have fallen on deaf ears. So alas I caved in to the wonder lube or whatever it was idea now and will resume my lowly place in the eternal darkness of my own garage and conform to more rigid standards of the day. I shall reflect on a time where the whole world stood at my doorstep in amazement of my hog lard idea only to have been shot down at the dawn of my flight I am afraid. With such a blow to my physchi I am now in wonder, shall I ever recover or be forever thrown into the shadow of obscurity with those poor souls who have also been thrown down before me? Those who were cast adrift on the sea of greatness never to have raised their heads again. Will I now like those before me, the inventors of the pet rock, shag carpeting, The 8 track, will I now be like them who were cast adrift never to have regained what they once had, what they once were. This is the question I now ponder.

There is a bright side and you know I always look at the half full not half empty galss, I am about to make a batch of flaky buscuits and hot coffee and wondered if you are in the area you might like to stop by and sample some. I have also fried a few hummingbird eggs to go with the buscuits. Although quite well done I am afraid, they should still be quite a sensation to the palate.

rabbit03 the happy buscuit maker no longer the happy luber.
 
Greetings Rabbit03,

Set out an extra plate. I am on my way. :: :

Throw in some South Texas wild bee honey and you can have your library card back. :applause:

Be sure to grease the pan with hog fat. :winking:

John L. Hinnant :peace: ::
 
Greetings Rabbit03,

Set out an extra plate. I am on my way. :: :

Throw in some South Texas wild bee honey and you can have your library card back. :applause:

Be sure to grease the pan with hog fat. :winking:

John L. Hinnant :peace: ::

Yepper I kin seed it now ... rendered Wonderlube cakes smothered in Motor honey, with Humminbird nuggets! :eek: :crackup:

Davy
 
There is NO REASON to NOT use hog lard...especially if you have it anyway! If you're going to be slaughtering a pig, why not use it? It definitely was used then and still is. It is supposed to work very well. The ONLY caveat I have ever heard is that it can go rancid after a while (putting it in the freezer should keep it for a very long time). If you shoot a lot, you'll probably use it up before it turns bad anyway.
 
HI Fatdutchman

Talked to momma today and was telling her about the hog lard in the barrel thing and she said the same thing you did, that it would turn rancid also. I am certain yall know what your talking about and I would never doubt my own momma but I will try to get the very best fat, the leaf fat and the fat off the back (fatback) for the project if I do it.

It may be all in the processing and how pure I can get it that determines how well it will keep.

Thanks

rabbit03
 
Hi Davy

I hear that you are one of us according to John, glad to have you aboard. I do hope that your humor won't be as twisted and questionable as mine, ca't speak for John. :):)

But guarenteed one thing whenever the egss and bacon and buscuits are are just count your self invited. And I do have honey, pure maple syrup, and just about anything you could want for buscuits (and shall we all take our hats off for the ever lovin and ohhhhh sooooo good Milk Gravy yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I heard a fellow once talk about something being
'Larapin good', when I asked him what that was he told me that was when it is so good that your on the floor with the dog cleaning out the bowl with your tounge. Well that is kind of the way I feel about buscuits and gravy. Now that is good!

rabbit03
 
Hmm one us .. do thet mean what I think it do? :eek:

I guess us Texian boys sometimes hafta "Alamo up", and you could do worser than hole up with John H ina pinch! Even if he is indefacto a bit prickly at times! :shocking: He IS mitey willin boy .. thets fer shore!

Biskits n Gravy .. its whats fer anytime eatin! :agree:

Davy
 
I didn't mention that the wife's family own a candle factory, so beeswax is rather easy to come by, for me!

My family raise hogs, so I'm spoilt for choice!
 
Good 'ol spit and a wipe down with bear oil or grease is probably the "period correct" way to go. I got rust when using that method, so I went back to "cheating". Beewsax has been around . . . a long time. The Romans used castor oil throughout Europe, and it was a purgative and lamp oil in the Americas from the Jamestown colony on, and soft soap (like Murphy's) is an ancient product of soapmaking (add salt and you get bar/cake soap). I can't prove that the three were ever mixed for a lube, but they were commonly available substances.
 
I have slowly made bear oil from bear fat and can tell you this!.chipping the fat an slow melting over a kitchen stove in an old soup pot made oil of such pure clear consistancy that i can see how it would be the most prized for patchlubes.I use 3/1 bear oil /bee wax for warm weather shooting,an 4/1 mix for winter lubes.I swear it feels like the oxyoke lube and works perfectly.My bear oil is 4 years old and has no smell at all?????.clear enought to read a newspaper through the jar.I am telling you all this is the best lube honest injin!! :front:
 
I just finished the first rendering of a batch of bear fat. It doesen't smell now but when I started wow did it stink. a friend brought me 10 gal. of fat and I filled 23 quart jars with the renderings. That will have to sit untill is't cold enough for the grease to settle out before I can make the lube. It came out very clear with just a hint of amber.

Jon
 
I left my jar of grease behind and as range rules say we need grease over the balls, I scrounged some margarine from the kitchen!


Worked just fine!
 
Jon:
Your fat must have been sour,or had meat on the fat. I've never had any bad smells rendering bear fat. It smells like grams kitchen on doughnut day. Once you add beeswax it will last for years and not get rancid. Its the best I've used in 33 years.
NW :front:
 
I have been using deer tallow for about a year now. I cut the fat from the deer wash it and fry it in a soup pot. My wife makes me do this outside. I then pick out the solids add some water and boil for awhile this will clean the tallow allowing the salt and sediment sink to the bottom leaving you with clean deer tallow. I then let it cool chip some into a metal tin heat on stove 2parts tallow to 1part olive oil(use good olive oil) let cool. let cool and go shoot I wipe bore with this also but still in the trial phase has worked so far. I got the idea from a muzzleloader mag. article a few years back.
 
Thanks Nit Wit, there was a very little meat on it. I just got the bees wax this morning at the farmers market for $2 a pound, thought that was a good price. Cheaper than trying to heard bees myself anyway. :hmm:

Jon
 

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