how about a poor-boy forum

[jim gray]

Don't take this personally, Mike, yours just happened to be the last post on the topic.

This is the kind of divisive argument that we don't need. We already have the Traditional-Inline split. Do we really need another reason to fight over insignificant manure?

I'm in a position that made a T/C Renegade a major purchase for me, but I would love to have a well made fowler or smooth rifle made by any reputable custom gun maker. That's just not going to happen right now.

The main thing is that no one here should have to justify how much or how little he spent to buy his gun. There are much more important things to be concerned about, but if your greatest concern is how much another member of this forum spends on a gun, I envy you because you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

 

[tom hargrove]

agreed but this post was not about that i wanted a place for simpel stuff that no one would make fun of and and some one brrought the brooks thing here i didnt post anything about it here this was a new therad on a different subjuct,and was hijacked by wolves. to further offer defense so all you brookies leave me the hell alone. i dont cate if he sell a 30cent screw for 300 dollars just stay off my back

 

[TN.Frank]

Seems I can read just fine......

Seems like you just read what you want to and ignore the rest. Here's the entire quote:
" I guess I'm just too "down to earth" to spend $2K on something that's going to hang on my wall. I can use that money else where to pay bills, put food on the table or gas in my truck. Just because you have the money to waste doesn't mean that you should."
The quote was about a painting, not a gun. Don't take things out of context.

 

[Blackpowder Injun]

How did this thread get so screwed up? The man just wanted to start a discussion for poor folks and people started getting crazy. I dont remember the first message having mentioned jackie brown or james brown or anything else but wanting to discuss cheap stuff without people looking down on him or anyone else who posts thereafter...

 

[TN.Frank]

LOL, I guess in some peoples worlds anything under $1000 is a "cheap" gun and not worth owning. :rotf:

 

[Claude Mathis]

why are you hijacking my theread .this is about a new forum . not whether your guns are expenseive or cheap. moderator can you help get this back on track.

We can't start categorizing the Forum by "Income Level" or "Perceived Value".

My take on this is...

In some people's minds, if I tell them I wouldn't spend $3,000 for a rifle because a $400 rifle is "just as good", that can be just as rude as saying I would never own a $400 rifle, because they aren't as good as a $3,000 rifle. In my opinion, both parties should show more respect than that.

We can't prohibit people from sharing their opinions, but we can insist that they do it in a civl manner and at least consider the other person's feelings.

 

[Blackpowder Injun]

I agree, and my 54.00 dollar bobcat is as accurate as a 4000.00 dollar rifle at 50 yards....so i'll use it till I can afford a 4000.00 dollar rifle... :grin:
And if it breaks, it's cheaper to buy another just like it than to fix it....

 

[Blackpowder Injun]

1000.00 dollars for a rifle? I wouldnt call that cheap...I like cheap, if I could find a 10.00 dollar rifle, i'de shoot it, i'de have money left over for powder, patch and balls...lol

 

[Stophel]

Believe you me, a thousand dollars for a nice, hand built rifle is CHEAP. Some of you people have absolutely NO IDEA what actually goes into building a gun. You have NO IDEA just how much work it is and how long it takes. You have NO IDEA just how much money many gunmakers actually LOSE (by not charging a true hourly rate on every bit of work done) on every gun they (I) sell.

(I figure I better add this little disclaimer...I was not directing the above statement directly at Injun. My comments were general statements about people not understanding just what is involved in building a gun.)

HAH, I got you beat, White Buffalo!...but not by much! :winking: Maybe we both should form the "Poverty club"....


Granted, this and many of the other posts here could have well gone on one of the other threads, but you gotta admit the pretty obvious connection in the comments...

 

[Coot]

I understand what you are saying Two-bellys but I don,t think a new section of the forum is needed. Everyone is free to post on either high dollar or low dollar items. The issue is not cost but a respectful and considerate discussion.

The following is NOT directed at you or anyone else but is just my 2-bits in general:

If one man spends $1200 on a gun and $100 on ammunition, and another spends $100 on a gun & $1200 on ammunition, each has supported his hobby to the tune of $1300. Which one will have the most fun, get the best return on his investment, and have the respect of his peers??? I think that the answer is both - but for different reasons. Neither is wrong for himself but cannot answer for the other. All I can say is "wow, nice gun" to the first & try to pump the second for shooting know-how.

I can appreciate expensive things that I cannot afford (just back from the boat show in Annapolis) and I can appreciate inexpensive things that I do not have the expertise to make for myself. There are things that I can easily afford but do not buy because I do not like or want them but others lust after them (such as inlines! :youcrazy: )

When I logged on a few minutes ago, the Forum had 9 guests. I hope that all of us can treat each other in a way that will make the guests want to become members. :thumbsup:

AND, finally, for you, Two-bellys, Nice looking pistol that you posted a photo a few days back. Please don't tell anyone what it cost! :haha:

 

[Blackpowder Injun]

no offense taken, It's like saying you could buy a harley davidson and pay for the name, or get a better bike for half the money that performs as well or better....I'll take the cheapest route, being the poor sap that I am...lol

 

[TN.Frank]

no offense taken, It's like saying you could buy a harley davidson and pay for the name, or get a better bike for half the money that performs as well or better....I'll take the cheapest route, being the poor sap that I am...lol

Yep, a lot of the time you pay extra for the name and the reputation of the man that built the gun. Two guns could be equal in quality and built with the same componets but if one is put together by Herschel House and the other by some guy down the street which one do you think will cost more? :hmm:

 

I have counted three threads now discussing the same :bull:

My opinion?...it Ain't needed.
Good day,
Don
:hatsoff:

As he rides off into the sunset. :shake:

 

[Capt. Jas.]

I have a nice poorboy. A "Promise Land Poorboy". It was made in the late eighties by master gunsmith Jim Hash.

It has no entry thimble and 2 plain thimbles. It does have a hand forged iron buttplate and a nice cheek piece. It uses a small Siler that has not been slapped together but carefully and masterfully assembled and tuned. Beautiful hard curly maple stock stained with nitric.

It is one of three that were made identical to entice newbies over to blackpowder when we first got our muzzleloading season in our county. It has appreciated in value times four. If I can get some pics I will post them if a new forum for these poorboy's is opened up.

Great idea for a poorboy forum as they can also be works of art. :hatsoff:

 

[TN.Frank]

Simplicity has a beauty all it's own.

 

[Mike Brooks]

That Hash gun is a good investment. You'll use it for years and get many times what you paid for it if/when you decide to sell it. :thumbsup:
That's the thing about quality guns by a maker with a name. They may cost more initially , but they continue to increase in value. Where as an inexpensive gun will always be an inexpensive gun. Some folks just will never get it.
The ironic thing about today's topics of discusion is I can't even afford one of my own guns! :haha: So, all of you folks that think I'm a rich arrogant A hole better make room for me in the new "Po' Boy forum.... :haha:

 

[Blackpowder Injun]

there's always room for one more at the poor table..... :rotf: :rotf:

 

[bnail]

Income level really has no bearing on a person's ability to buy a finer gun.
By the Grace of Gad, a good wife and socking a little away each week, I am able to afford one of Mikes Guns, and guess what folks, Mike and I talked about affordability and I'm only spending what I can afford.
I can't afford to shell out the duckets for a ToTW gun! :youcrazy:. If it wern't for Mike's backlog, and his flexibility, I could never afford a finer gun!
Thanks Mike for helping a poor guy out. :hatsoff:

 

[Blackpowder Injun]

it takes awhile, but anyone could afford something a little better if they try.....

Income level really has no bearing on a person's ability to buy a finer gun.
By the Grace of Gad, a good wife and socking a little away each week, I am able to afford one of Mikes Guns, and guess what folks, Mike and I talked about affordability and I'm only spending what I can afford.
I can't afford to shell out the duckets for a ToTW gun! :youcrazy:. If it wern't for Mike's backlog, and his flexibility, I could never afford a finer gun!
Thanks Mike for helping a poor guy out. :hatsoff:

 

[walruskid1]

Gad, you know, like Gad Zooks!