I dont hunt anymore but once upon a time when I could walk I did, Im out of the wheelchair after a bunch of years and still dont (what I do I don't call hunting) we are ate up with wild hogs, are causeng car wreaks and pets getting killed and may go after a someones kid next. I got the first about 350lber with a 62 roundy ball, thats one thing being in a wheelchair taught me "ya got all the time in the world" most the time. I shot 575 gr 451s. And not knowing better and it working so good used short maxie's in 54s and 58s no problem, like anyting I do when I switched it was a all or nothing the hogs head got a 54 (520)Hawken RB when she tryed to get up. All were out of range for me )3 to 400 yds) this mornning but in 2 1/2 hours I'll be setting up with the 50 Hawken and the rifled 62 610 ball got a 3X9 scope on that one, and always carry a H+A boot 45 underhammer in my boot's for in case of's,in case of what I got no idea. Fred :hatsoff: so thats ..62 600 and 610 , a54 that is more a small 53, and the 50 and 433 ball from the bootgun.