I have to rethink the spare cylinder idea

[fireman1]

There was a reason Josey Wales carried 12 pistols!!!! LOL,LOL

I love that documentary.

 

[fireman1]

You'd probably be devastated then watching the History Channel when they show reenactments of historical events. Once saw a cap lock rifle in an event that happened before the era of cap locks. Saw a match lock being used in a modern-day event. One saw an episode about the OK Corral shoot out. The Earp Bros. were using C&B revolvers. Saw an M1 Garrand being used in Viet-Nam. You get the idea. Think sometimes to those doing these reenactments a gun is a gun regardless of period correctness.

To be fair, plenty of M1's were used in Viet Nam by ARVN troops and CIDG irregulars.

Also, it's not outsidethe realm of possibility for a C&B cartridge conversion to have been used at the OK corral.

 

[Mike in FL]

I often think that the improper era weapon and the handling thereof is the least considered aspect of movies.

 

[AlexB]

Why they are called movies it aint real.

 

[Mike in FL]

Why they are called movies it aint real.

Well, i guess it is just semantics, but being unreal is not actually why they are called movies even though they are in fact unreal. I think the term movie came about when the industry first made pictures that moved. Uh oh, I'm getting way off topic and far away from muzzleloaders.

 

[KingOfKindling]

Get on a horse and try to do that and get back to reality..the cylinder swap deal is all hollyweard vs then swap? hello extra guns.

No horse to practice on sadly. Maybe I should bust out the unicycle.


Did a little looking for videos of cylinder swaps. Turns out my swap speed is even slower than I thought. Makes sense, I haven't practiced for it.





Now, you're not gonna do that on a horse, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if an experienced horseman could come close to something like my time. Not saying it actually happened, but claiming it's unrealistic or extremely difficult is a bit of stretch.

 

[TNGhost]

You'd probably be devastated then watching the History Channel when they show reenactments of historical events. Once saw a cap lock rifle in an event that happened before the era of cap locks. Saw a match lock being used in a modern-day event. One saw an episode about the OK Corral shoot out. The Earp Bros. were using C&B revolvers. Saw an M1 Garrand being used in Viet-Nam. You get the idea. Think sometimes to those doing these reenactments a gun is a gun regardless of period correctness.

Evidence of how we all have made the grave mistake of believing that the "media" knows what it is talking about.

 

[Dark Angel]

To be fair, plenty of M1's were used in Viet Nam by ARVN troops and CIDG irregulars.

Also, it's not outsidethe realm of possibility for a C&B cartridge conversion to have been used at the OK corral.

Saw M1-M2 carbines. In fact, I carried and M2. Full size Garands, NOPE! Was all over that country, trucking supplies and such, for a while working a TMP. In fact, in one Montagnard village, saw a match lock rifle. As for C&B at the OK Corral, C&B would have probably still been around, but in this clip. the caps were clearly visible on the nipples. Even by that time, rim-fire cartridges were becoming a rarity with just a few 'old' .44 Henery's around.

 

[fireman1]

Saw M1-M2 carbines. In fact, I carried and M2. Full size Garands, NOPE! Was all over that country, trucking supplies and such, for a while working a TMP. In fact, in one Montagnard village, saw a match lock rifle. As for C&B at the OK Corral, C&B would have probably still been around, but in this clip. the caps were clearly visible on the nipples. Even by that time, rim-fire cartridges were becoming a rarity with just a few 'old' .44 Henery's around.

 

[fireman1]

Saw M1-M2 carbines. In fact, I carried and M2. Full size Garands, NOPE! Was all over that country, trucking supplies and such, for a while working a TMP. In fact, in one Montagnard village, saw a match lock rifle. As for C&B at the OK Corral, C&B would have probably still been around, but in this clip. the caps were clearly visible on the nipples. Even by that time, rim-fire cartridges were becoming a rarity with just a few 'old' .44 Henery's around.

Understood about the caps. I agree that would have been long gone.

 

[Sylvester Pattie]

Saw M1-M2 carbines. In fact, I carried and M2. Full size Garands, NOPE! Was all over that country, trucking supplies and such, for a while working a TMP. In fact, in one Montagnard village, saw a match lock rifle. As for C&B at the OK Corral, C&B would have probably still been around, but in this clip. the caps were clearly visible on the nipples. Even by that time, rim-fire cartridges were becoming a rarity with just a few 'old' .44 Henery's around.

I think the Rimfire lasted a lot longer than some people think. I spent time around an old cabin foundation The cabin was built around 1890 and there were quite a few .44 Henry and .56 spencer casings scattered around the area. The Henry’s all had the two opposing firing pin indents of the model 1866 Winchester not the single one of a revolver. I believe they made ammo for both up until WW I but I don’t have documentation.

 

[Malamute]

I think the Rimfire lasted a lot longer than some people think. I spent time around an old cabin foundation The cabin was built around 1890 and there were quite a few .44 Henry and .56 spencer casings scattered around the area. The Henry’s all had the two opposing firing pin indents of the model 1866 Winchester not the single one of a revolver. I believe they made ammo for both up until WW I but I don’t have documentation.

The 1866 Winchester was made until 1899. Sears catalogs sold Civil War Spencers in the early 1900s. I believe Sears also sold Civil war military muskets in the early 1900s, IIRC as cut down to carbine size and/or smoothbored, as well as 50-70 trapdoors (1866 to 1870s models) The book COTW mentions 44 rimfire ammo was made until 1934.

Surplus guns of all types were sold for quite a long time after newer commercial models were common. They were generally very affordable. Old gun catalogs of the 1870s bought and sold used percussion revolvers. Ill see if I can find the specific reference. They also sold new percussion sporting rifles and shotguns at least into the 1870s.