Kibler has announced a Hawken Kit in the works.

[COTNTOP]

We are all so lucky, I even went Yellowhammer hunting as a youngin. They roosted in the tobacco barns so one would shine the light at the hole from the outside and the other would climb up the tier poles from the inside to catch him. That must be how you got your name.

 

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[Kmcmichael]

Times are easy now but will be difficult again.
One could at that time work themselves to death. Many of the voyagers in the fur trade died of hernias.

 

[user 36911]

I have a hernia, so i'd fit right in.

 

[yellowhammer]

I have a hernia, so i'd fit right in.

Mine bothered me progressively worse till real bad; finally couldn't take any more & got fixed. Doc said in old days I'd been in real trouble.

 

[user 36911]

Had mine for 20 years. I wear a tight hernia belt. I don't want to be cut on by anymore doctors. I have horror stories from past doctors.

 

[yellowhammer]

Had mine for 20 years. I wear a tight hernia belt. I don't want to be cut on by anymore doctors. I have horror stories from past doctors.

Look into laparoscopic surgery - no cutting - I was back at it in 3 days?

Back on the Kibler Hawken - I wish he would do a lighter half-stock percussion instead, like maybe a slimmer Vincent or even some sort of slim Lehman. I picked up an original Vincent that was nose heavy, but still light and handy enough, and MUCH lighter than some of those mortar-barreled Hawkens.

 

[bptactical]

Man a bunch of folks here like to swing their purses

 

[French Colonial]

Look into laparoscopic surgery - no cutting - I was back at it in 3 days?

Back on the Kibler Hawken - I wish he would do a lighter half-stock percussion instead, like maybe a slimmer Vincent or even some sort of slim Lehman. I picked up an original Vincent that was nose heavy, but still light and handy enough, and MUCH lighter than some of those mortar-barreled Hawkens.

" I wish he would do a lighter half-stock percussion instead, like maybe a slimmer Vincent or even some sort of slim Lehman. I picked up an original Vincent that was nose heavy, but still light and handy enough, and MUCH lighter than some of those mortar-barreled Hawkens"

Yes, I agree, but then would it be a "Hawken" and how much would the Hawken fans complain.

 

[yellowhammer]

Man a bunch of folks here like to swing their purses

LOL

 

[user 36911]

Man a bunch of folks here like to swing their purses

We call them possible bags.

 

[BuffaloSoldier]

In Limon, Colorado, out on the Eastern Plains, they have a statue of a frontiersman. He carries a double barrel shotgun. One loaded with a slug or buckshot for large game, the other with birdshot for small game/birds. Just my two cents worth!

 

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[Garbear34]

Has he posted the trade gun pics yet? That's the one I'm waiting for

 

[Frontier's]

Where are these hawken rifles listed?

I looked on search but can not find anything.

How much are we looking at? Will they be available with a synthetic stock?

 

[mikesto44]

Wonder how many more pages this going to go to...?

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Has he posted the trade gun pics yet? That's the one I'm waiting for

He has never said he's going to make a trade gun.

 

[BadDaditood]

You are absolutely right, but the error was first made a long time ago. I like to read the frontier travel literature that was written in the 19th century, and you see "Hawkins" all the time in reference to these rifles. In fact, I don't recall ever reading "Hawken" in the period literature. The fascination with and loyalty to these rifles is nothing new, either. This is from Captain Randolph B. Marcy's The Prairie Traveler (p. 22), first published in 1863:

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I don't know when the Hawken brothers started stamping their name on their rifles, but I think they were doing it by the 1830's, anyway. A lot of the people who wrote their memoirs back then were very literate fellows. Surely they could have simply read the name stamped on the barrels of the mountainers' rifles, but they called the rifles and their makers "Hawkins" anyway. That usage was so common, I sometimes think they applied the "Hawkins" moniker to any rifle that even looked like one, sort of like some folks call all blue jeans "Levis," or all tissues "Kleenex." I remember many years ago reading an article in one of my dad's gun magazines, in which the writer stated something like "Kit Carson's Hawken was made by Benjamin Mills of Harrisburg, Kentucky." Even then, I knew it was wrong. Not too long ago, one of the big gun auction websites had a "Pedersoli Tryon Hawken" for sale. The beat goes on.

Notchy Bob

Hate to rain on your parade, or piddle on your Froot Loops but it was Hachen when granddaddy Wolfgang Hachen came to ‘merika and spawned a bunch of lousy spellers.

 

[TDM]

It seems my grand parents talked of making a dollar a day in the 30s, so I would assume wages were half tha a hundred years before. Not that it makes any difference.

There was an old man that worked for my Father. I remember him often saying “a dollar a day, a hundred days, a hundred dollars.” Back then he was pretty close to the mark.

 

[TDM]

Wonder how many more pages this going to go to...?

The thread has a mind of its own now.