Kibler's Longrifles new product announcement tomorrow

[Coinneach]

What I see is the result of an artist's original designs applied to a modern "tool" for execution in limited numbers. This isn't a thousand "collectible" item presentation as we see in full-page magazine ads. Each Kibler Kit or finished piece is, in my view, an individually created heirloom - not a cheesy gold-plated "Battle of Whatever" POC. Should a man choose to have a bit of such artwork applied, that's a fine thing to offer customers.

I'd call it the "Kibler Custom Shop" and see what happens. Looks fine to me.

As I see it Jim Kibler has successfully developed and implemented an affordable quality-plus product, yet continues to enhance it even more; most of us wouldnt be able to afford expensive hard carved stocks until JK simplified its production and cost efficiencies.

We owe him at least an acknowledgment and sincere appreciation.

 

[John May]

I learnt a lot of my early engineering skills from an old guy that had been in the trade all his life, he was adamant that, had he had modern tools when he was starting out, he would have used them without thinking twice. The principal with CNC carving to my mind is the same. Just my opinion but I’m sure a lot of early Gunsmiths would have welcomed the chance of using modern ‘stuff’ when they built their customers rifles. I suppose a lot of this is classed as progress, something that obviously doesn’t appeal to a certain section of shooters….

 

[Reno]

But I got it for you dear so we can spend more time together.

Try it

Never worked for me. But give it a shot

 

[COTNTOP]

In a hundred years the populace will be talking about how those crude built Kibler rifles were made so primitive. Kinda glad I have waited so long before ordering one.

 

[acavdragoon]

I have one on order.

 

[brushblind]

I'm holding out for the Kibler 20ga trade gun kit!

 

[oreclan]

I’m afraid you are dead wrong there. The difference is in the tools used, not the material

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_engraving?wprov=sfti1

You may be right; however Wikipedia is just another person's opinion!
As an example a knowledgeable friend, a retired history teacher, who has spent much of his adult life researching and writing about the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment , Continental Army, has been deleted as well as edited by others in Wikipedia.
Others have found untruths about WWII aircraft that were posted. These are only a few areas of "fact" that I am aware of. So take Wikipedia postings as only one source, and with a grain of salt not as the final authority.
Are powderhorns carved, engraved, or scrimshawed?
Are wood surfaces carved, or incised, or scraped, or chiseled to shape? All of these, actually. You decide.

 

[oreclan]

Another Kibler rifle to add to my Kibler family. Placed my order Friday for the carved Woodsrunner.

Awh, I only own three.

 

[yellowhammer]

I'm holding out for the Kibler 20ga trade gun kit!

Fusil de Chasse, please

 

[babstooge]

very nice . I now have to bite the bullet and get a woodsrunner. as others have said it is a great custom built rifle at consumer prices. thanks for the innovation, Bruce

 

[Terrier]

I don’t believe I’ll be getting a Woodsrunner until it’s available in .40cal or smaller. I like the carving option, and I also like the butt plate shape better.

I’ve become a recoil wimp in my old age and I don’t really care to get thumped by a larger caliber over and over on a woods walk or at the range table.

I’m not sure if that offering will ever be available, but I no longer have any interest in 45 and up.

Whaddaya say @James Kibler ? Can you add .40 cal to the Woodsrunner lineup?

 

[oreclan]

Ok, here’s the new Kibler video.

There were hints about carving being offered at last year's open house, now that I recall!
I watched the video. Jim has perfected a beautiful incised carved, high end kit!
I prefer a simpler style; however more in line with the original Woodsrunner or feather rifle, but that's me.
When the fowler is released; however, I may spring for the CNC carving!

 

[oreclan]

I assume that this is an option, and that the uncarved Woodsrunner is still available.
I also wonder about the wood selection options.
Wait Ron, you already got yours!

 

[TDM]

I assume that this is an option, and that the uncarved Woodsrunner is still available.
I also wonder about the wood selection options.
Wait Ron, you already got yours!

Yes, the carving is an option.

 

[RB POWELL]

New product announcement coming tomorrow. Here's a quick preview...

Kibler strikes again. Jim has been thinking out of the box for a long time now. Amazing, when you think we are talking about something so traditional, and dare I say aged as muzzleloaders. Quite wonderful.

 

[B P Maniac Shooter]

Fusil de Chasse, please
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When Kibler releases a smoothbore...he won't be able to make and ship them fast enough!

 

[TDM]

When Kibler releases a smoothbore...he won't be able to make and ship them fast enough!

I agree.

 

[Reds]

Thanks for you interest and I see value in your take. That said, multiple identical rifles are not necessarily bad. I collect Savage 99's. Only bring up the unmentionable to make a point.

I am in accord with your view on most carvings done today. Even primitive carving on rifles of the 18th and early 19th century had a spontaneity lacking on most any rifle carved these days. Yes, my judgment is affected by CNC use for ornamental carving. Does not bother me on mass produced furniture legs, for example. But a long rifle is a much more personal thing. I would want the carving to reflect me and not be present on multiple other guns.

It is why the rifle Rick Baker is building for me is iron mounted on an unadorned cherry stock.

I mentioned earlier in another thread the subtle beauty of British "best" guns. When you encounter one you see the whole gun. It is a gorgeous whole. It is only later on further inspection that you see the checkering, engraving and inlaying that contribute to the whole.
If i have a gun built, or do it my self, that is what I would strive for.

But if Rick Baker is building You a rifle where is Your originality! It seems it’s Rick Bakers! Just sayin! Thanks Jim Kibler for this great option cause I can build a bedazzled rifle but can’t draw or carve a lick!!!!

 

[B P Maniac Shooter]

But if Rick Baker is building You a rifle where is Your originality! It seems it’s Rick Bakers! Just sayin! Thanks Jim Kibler for this great option cause I can build a bedazzled rifle but can’t draw or carve a lick!!!!

What Kibler has done with this update is essentially cut out the custom builder.
The option now exists for a shooter to obtain a custom gun of their choice that can be built and carved pretty much any way you wish.
The best part is....the cost of the Kibler gun will be $1000.00 less and you will be shooting in a week or two instead of waiting months of even years for one.

 

[Buckskinn]

Wow, that is impressive and for only $375 added on... Jim has changed the industry in a positive way, unless you are a custom builder. The only kick is that they all look the same and are somewhat of a production firearm, so if you want something unique you can hit up a custom builder and pay the premium and wait time.