Lack of cylinder safety pins

[azmntman]

How bout them Diamond backs? Oh, and I load an carry six and all mine have the notches. If anyone here will shoot himself it is me and to date you are all safe so do what ya want. I guess if it was a real issue they could make a 5 shot revolver with the 6th chamber un drilled?

 

[azmntman]

Going to the US Patent office now. Gotta do all we can to make this a safe sport. When ya play with explosive stuff ya need all the help ya need.

 

[SPQR70AD]

I've almost died by notable causes 10 times, not counting being shot at. Play it safe and die of boredom. The closer you come to cashing in, the more perspective on life you aquire.

after 68 you are half dead anyway. getting part useless is not endearing me to life

 

[M. De Land]

after 68 you are half dead anyway. getting part useless is not endearing me to life

I was just telling my son today that getting used to living in an old body takes some attitude adjustments !

 

[Flintlock Whiskey]

Quote: "I guess if it was a real issue they could make a 5 shot revolver with the 6th chamber un drilled"

You may have given the morons in several gvmt departments a new idea.

 

[CaptainVane]

IF you do want to carry it or hunt with it, then the safest thing is to load 5-you don't need the 6th unless you're in Indian territory.

Now that’s funny!

 

[CaptainVane]

Adding my .02 cents. I was very confident with my Colts on the pins…. Until…. I used Blackie Thomas method to eliminate cap suck jams which involves filing the sharp edges on the hammer notch that catches the pins. What was a straight wall notch is now a sloped wall notch, I almost never get cap jams anymore (thx Blackie) but now not so confident that the cylinder wont rotate slipping the pin off the slope walled notch. At range I load 6. If i DID carry in woods I would still load 6. All my revolvers are in full flap holsters so the chance of a massive hammer hit are reduced. The holsters are all left side butt forward angled so barrel points behind me.

 

[beardedhorse]

My Uberti replica of a Remington New Model Army has notches between nipples that the hammer can safely rest with all six charges loaded. Picked up a stainless Ruger Old Army and have to check out the geometry of hammer and nipples. But it may have a transfer bar like on the Super Blackhawk and safe to carry with six loaded. Not sure on the Walt Kirst conversion cylinders for unmentionables. Has only five chambers and no visible notches or pins. Instruction manual explains a safe way to rest the hammer down between rims of the unmentionable cartridges.

 

[SPQR70AD]

Quote: "I guess if it was a real issue they could make a 5 shot revolver with the 6th chamber un drilled"

You may have given the morons in several gvmt departments a new idea.

the safety sissys would find even that pistol unsafe somehow

 

[M. De Land]

Adding my .02 cents. I was very confident with my Colts on the pins…. Until…. I used Blackie Thomas method to eliminate cap suck jams which involves filing the sharp edges on the hammer notch that catches the pins. What was a straight wall notch is now a sloped wall notch, I almost never get cap jams anymore (thx Blackie) but now not so confident that the cylinder wont rotate slipping the pin off the slope walled notch. At range I load 6. If i DID carry in woods I would still load 6. All my revolvers are in full flap holsters so the chance of a massive hammer hit are reduced. The holsters are all left side butt forward angled so barrel points behind me.

All that is needed is to relieve any sharp or peen-ed over edges with a bit of corner breaking not changing the profile of the slot by taking the corners off and making a taper on the slot corners.

 

[mushka]

Dying horses are being beat to death.

 

[Blitz]

There is no reason to leave one chamber empty.

A bump on the hammer won't detonate a primer.

A heavy strike to the hammer MAY set it off.

But how often does a heavy object come flying out of nowhere and smack the back of a hammer?

There was a fellow near me here in placerville Ca., I believe i was the late 70s or the early 80s had his holstered rig on pickup seat six chambered rounds pulled out of truck by grabing belt pistol fell out landed on hammer shot in leg by .................44mag.

Very lucky dude he was able to drive himself to hospital.
Was reported in newspaper.

I like a fool used to carry my Frontier six the same way when I was young and did not know better even after my Dad told me it was not a good practice. I don`t know why I did that, somehow I just did not think it a probable scenario even though Dad always gave excellent training on firearms , I think the reason was that two or three friends I used to shoot and fish with all did the same. Ignorance and peer pressure no one else had ever mentioned the proper loaded carry.

Blitz

 

[Old Grunt]

I don't know about cap and ball caps,but center-fire,and even rimfire take less of a smack on hammer then most realize,I've demonstrated that a few times to myself and others,with a inch or so diameter stick 8-10 inches long it really don't take to big of whap on hammer,to make a bang.

 

[Colonial Boy]

A lot of Colt Python owners will be disappointed to read this.

Shooters didn't design the Transfer Safety Bar.

Lawyers did.

A revolver isn't a true revolver without a firing pin pinned to the hammer.

My 1868 Tranter takes exception to that remark, Sir, he’s got a frame mounted firing pin and considers himself very modern indeed.

 

[CaptainVane]

All that is needed is to relieve any sharp or peen-ed over edges with a bit of corner breaking not changing the profile of the slot by taking the corners off and making a taper on the slot corners.

Yes, i overstated the amount removed. Where it was before was tight on the pin, now there is a tiny wiggle room. I still use pins but if i was carrying in rough bouncy terrain i may opt for empty chamber just in case.

 

[Bad Karma]

I was just telling my son today that getting used to living in an old body takes some attitude adjustments !

It ain’t for sissies…

saw a t-shirt recently. “At this point, cremation is my last chance for a smoking hot body.”

 

[CaptainVane]

It ain’t for sissies…

saw a t-shirt recently. “At this point, cremation is my last chance for a smoking hot body.”

Haha, make it i will buy it!!!!

 

[M. De Land]

It ain’t for sissies…

saw a t-shirt recently. “At this point, cremation is my last chance for a smoking hot body.”

Well we all come from the earth and we return to it so live each day with gusto and thanksgiving beginning to end ! We never have the assurance of the next day when 20 and in perfect health ! You are a spirit, who lives in a body and has a soul ! Two of the three live on ! The only thing different about old age issssssssssssssssssssssss, well everything !
I'm reminded of a friend telling me of a conversation with his 80 year old mother where he was trying to encourage her about the benefits of old age. A long pause after making this statement to her she replied, " Well son, I can't think what that benefit your talking about might be" !

 

[nick_1]

holy smokes this thread is full of Darwin awards waiting to happen. lowering the hammer of a loaded capped chamber and not putting hammer in the safety notch or rotating back to the last fired and now empty chamber is simply incompetence.

 

[nick_1]

to all you folks who do not believe in transfer bars on modern revolvers or safety notches and pins on cap and ball revolvers and think its ok to have the hammer of your percussion rifle or pistol resting on the cap of a loaded chamber while not having the weapon pointed down range please wear a shirt that has bold letters proclaiming that you are an unsafe shooter. For what its worth transfer bars were not the lawyers idea. That was Bill Ruger coming up with a solution to all the folks shooting themselves in the leg while fast drawing. having had an 1858 go off in my holster when my thumb slipped off the hammer while fast drawing I absolutely appreciate that invention.