Lee Precision R.E.A.L bullets

[82Tank]

I am a muzzle loader (almost) newbie. 25 or so years ago I had a .58 and cast my own RB. I now have a different .58 percussion and a .45 percussion (.45 is for my teen-aged grandson).

I have seen a lot about these bullets and am thinking about purchasing the Lee molds (I still have my old pot, RB mold and ladle).
I have a few questions.
1. Do you still 'butter' the bullets, or shoot them dry?
2. For the .45/220gr bullet, what is a good powder load?
3. Similar question for the .58/440

Thanks,

 

[Rock Home Isle]

I cast these for my .50 and .45 calibre firearms. I use Crisco as a lube, though this next spring/summer I’ll be experimenting with Alox…but yeah, you’ll want to use some type of lube

 

[82Tank]

I cast these for my .50 and .45 calibre firearms. I use Crisco as a lube, though this next spring/summer I’ll be experimenting with Alox…but yeah, you’ll want to use some type of lube

Thanks. Having no experience with this, do you just dip and wipe, or is there a correct procedure? What powder load(s) do you use?

 

[wiscoaster]

Thanks. Having no experience with this, do you just dip and wipe, or is there a correct procedure?.....

"Correct" is what works.

Being helpful instead of snarky for once, I offer this post to spark your imagination for procedure:
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...did-you-do-today.134755/page-868#post-2771073

 

[Rock Home Isle]

Thanks. Having no experience with this, do you just dip and wipe, or is there a correct procedure? What powder load(s) do you use?

I just wipe a nice amount onto the base and sides of the conical, between the rings, and then seat the projectile. It gets pretty messy on hot summer days.

I’ve done a few range tests with/without lubricant, and there is a difference. Out of my .50 calibre Pedersoli Alamo Rifle; with lube, 5 shots touching at 75 yrds; without lube, 5 shots into a 6-7 inch group at 75 yrds. Simple test, and as a result I use lube.

 

[Fastleo]

I have a few guns that shoot the lee real bullets very well. Lubed or no lube, in my guns it doesn’t matter

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

If ya don't lube em they're likely to lead your bore. Any mess from the lube is minor compared to dealing with that. My preferred method is. An old pie tin, an old hot plate preferably one without an exposed coil, store brand Crisco variant, and a bar or two of Bees Wax from Amazon to make it more summer friendly. Just enough in the pan to cover the lube grooves, let it cool and use a plastic tube to punch the bullets out.

By all means. Please ask what the best bullet lube is lol.

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

Oh. And an over powder wad to protect the base of the bullet can do wonders if you're having trouble with grouping.

 

[planefixer da50]

REAL bullets shoot well, use a lubed wad over powder. the usps flat rate box make good wad lubed with bee wax n mutton tallow. just dip in warm melt. works great for the bullets. keep in altoid tin.

 

[Rock Home Isle]

Oh. And an over powder wad to protect the base of the bullet can do wonders if you're having trouble with grouping.

I have never tried that…what an intriguing idea…okay, I’ll give that a go