New plastic Goex container

[Onojutta]

Just bought some powder for the first time in a few years and was surprised when the clerk handed me a plastic bottle. The mouth on the plastic bottle is a lot bigger than the old metal cans, so my screw-on pouring spout will not work on this plastic bottle, and I haven't found a suitable replacement. Anyone found a similar spout for the plastic bottles?

Also here is something to ponder. I have heard many times over the years that plastic funnels should be avoided when filling powder horns because of the potential to build up static electricity, and that metal funnels should be used as an alternative. So pouring powder from the new plastic container is no different from using a plastic funnel in that regard. I do find it hard to believe the use of a plastic funnel has ever been the cause for an accidental discharge. Even harder to believe is that the little bit of powder passing against plastic, whether it be the funnel or the new bottle, could generate a charge with enough potential to cause a spark.

 

[Calum]

'morning,

The gun shop that I frequent carries a screw on spout specifically for the new cans. I think it's made by TC, but I don't remember off the top of my head.

But what I tend to do is pour the powder into my old, tin, can. I'll store in the plastic, but the one I'm using, the tin fits so much better in my range box.

Calum

 

[coloradoclyde]

http://www.amazon.com/Thompson-Center-Arms-Pyrodex-Container/dp/B000LBYV3K
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Thompson-Center-Pyrodex-and-Blackhorn-Powder-Pour-Spout/741104.uts
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/pr...-powder-and-pyrodex-canisters-051525510116.do

I don't know if the pyrodex lids and the new goex lids are the same size or not but you could always make a spout.

 

[Black Jack]

RMCOxyoke Co. makes one specifically for the new GOEX plastic cans. Here is the link: For 5.95 you can't go wrong.
http://www.rmcoxyoke.com/inc/sdetail/cap_and_spout_for_new_plastic_goex_powder_can/6552/8944

 

[Rifleman1776]

I have heard many times over the years that plastic funnels should be avoided when filling powder horns because of the potential to build up static electricity

In the 1970's when I had my ml store I bought bp in steel bulk kegs and transferred into plastic lined freezer boxes. When I was pouring I could see the famous magnetic field formation from the dust in the air sticking to the outside of the keg. Lotsa static fer sure. It only kilt me oncet by blowing up. :shocked2: :wink:
Really, don't worry about it.

 

[Archer 756]

:hmm: There has been lots of test on plastic and black powder, NON have shown any danger, there was one show on Myth Busters and also note in Muzzle Loader as not any concern.

 

[Donny]

http://www.amazon.com/Thompson-Center-Arms-Pyrodex-Container/dp/B000LBYV3K
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Thompson-Center-Pyrodex-and-Blackhorn-Powder-Pour-Spout/741104.uts
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/pr...-powder-and-pyrodex-canisters-051525510116.do

I don't know if the pyrodex lids and the new goex lids are the same size or not but you could always make a spout.

Pyrodex 2" and old Goex 1" and new plastic Goex 1 1/2" necks are Not the same.

 

[Semisane]

 

[uno676]

:thumbsup: nice hack

 

[Rifleman1776]

Good tips. Got it "tips"? :rotf:

 

[Rifleman1776]

:hmm: There has been lots of test on plastic and black powder, NON have shown any danger, there was one show on Myth Busters and also note in Muzzle Loader as not any concern.

I am familiar with those reports. Many tests have 'proven' static will not ignite bp. But, a while back someone here, not surprisingly, showed where static can ignite bp.
Oh, well. :idunno:

 

[Scota4570]

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=91498

I bet they could sell you a lifetime supply for a pittance. Or even better ask for a sample. Measure the can to see what size and thread pitch.

 

[Billnpatti]

Dang, Semisane, I can see that you are a man with a creative mind who knows how to make do with whatever is at hand. Well done!! :thumbsup:

 

[Billnpatti]

I wish I could remember who posted the video of an experiment where the person was using a Tesla coil to generate lots of static electricity and applying it to a small pile of black powder. It would not ignite the black powder. :shake: So, static electricity build-up is not a concern when pouring black powder from a plastic container or using a plastic funnel. Obviously, while the sparks that were generated were impressive, they simply weren't hot enough to ignite the black powder. Hot sparks such as from a flint on steel or a cigar ash are another thing completely. :shocked2: :nono:

 

[necchi]

But, a while back someone here, not surprisingly, showed where static can ignite bp.
Oh, well. :idunno:

I'd like you to find that,
I haven't seen it, or read it here or anywhere else.
If someone has done this it's going to be big news to a lot of people.
Like I said,, I'd like to see that report found on this forum.

 

[ohio ramrod]

When they started using the plastic cans I took a plastic lid drilled it out for an empty casing from a modern shell with the primer hole enlarged and epoxied it into the hole. It works for me. :idunno:

 

[Landngroove]

I have saved my older metal Goex cans which I have spouts for, just for this reason. If you got the older cans, save 'em.

 

[Onojutta]

Those are very creative ideas if you have an extra cap to permanently modify. Since I only have on bottle, I like the idea of preserving the factory cap so I can seal it off, and so it fits in my shooting box.

 

[Onojutta]

RMCOxyoke Co. makes one specifically for the new GOEX plastic cans. Here is the link: For 5.95 you can't go wrong.
http://www.rmcoxyoke.com/inc/sdeta...new_plastic_goex_powder_can/6552/8944[/quote]

Thanks for that link. I just ordered one.

 

[Onojutta]

I wish I could remember who posted the video of an experiment where the person was using a Tesla coil to generate lots of static electricity and applying it to a small pile of black powder. It would not ignite the black powder. :shake: So, static electricity build-up is not a concern when pouring black powder from a plastic container or using a plastic funnel. Obviously, while the sparks that were generated were impressive, they simply weren't hot enough to ignite the black powder. Hot sparks such as from a flint on steel or a cigar ash are another thing completely. :shocked2: :nono:

I saw that not long ago. While the test definitely showed that the spark would not ignite the powder in that case, I wonder how representative that test is of all the goofy conditions one might encounter in the field. All it takes is for the spark to reach the temperature required to set off the powder.

I only know enough about electricity to be dangerous, but I surmise that the temperature of the arc is a function of lots of things, like resistance, current (amps) and voltage. Who knows what those variables are each time a static charge is released.