As I'm sure most of you know, Ebay doesn't allow "shooting" guns to be posted for auction. However, every-so-often one slips by the censors. My question deals with the "legal" ones that are advertised as working guns but with no touch hole drilled. I emailed a seller about these with the inquiry of "if a touch hole WERE drilled , are these shootable? He stated that he has answered that question hundreds of times....Yes, they could be fired. Has anyone ever had a non TH gun and drilled it themselves? If so, is the quality good? These rifles look great in photos and usually run in the $300 to $400 range. Don't need a wall hanger and was curious if some manufacturor was getting around some import law by sending these as non'firing. thanks for your input. :hmm:
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Longknife, is this a company or an individual selling these? I know that some companies such as Military Heritage and Loyalist Arms sell muskets, pistols and rifles w/o the vent (touch hole) drilled. This allows them to sell these weapons in countries that don't allow firing weapons to be shipped. These are mostly quality guns which can indeed be drilled and fired. I know some guys on this site have bought these, and hopefully they'll post here, too. I would be VERY cautious buying ANYTHING from Ebay,
espcially a gun :shocking:! The price range you mentioned sounds suspiciously low. Most FIREABLE rifles/muskets, even those not drilled, run in the $475-650 range. I'd rather spend more and get something from a reputable company! :imo: :thumbsup:
espcially a gun :shocking:! The price range you mentioned sounds suspiciously low. Most FIREABLE rifles/muskets, even those not drilled, run in the $475-650 range. I'd rather spend more and get something from a reputable company! :imo: :thumbsup:
Member Daryl: has had one of these muskets where he had to drill the touch hole, this is the only way to ship one to Canada...
The musket has also had breech plug threads issues...
The plugged touch hole is just a ruse to get around the fact that it's a real weapon, a quick drill and you are able to shoot...
The musket has also had breech plug threads issues...
The plugged touch hole is just a ruse to get around the fact that it's a real weapon, a quick drill and you are able to shoot...
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With no names, makes, or suppliers, we don't know what firearms you are talking about.
: Except for movie props, as from military/heritage.com, I know of no others that wuld need to have no vent drilled. The muskets form the noted dealer, are indeed capable of being fired and are meant to be fired. Nto only is there trouble with shipping guns in Canada, but Maryland (I believe)New York, and a number of countries where movies are made won't allow the shipment of quantities of working muskets into their areas. Have no vents solves this problem. Thee guns are meant to be fired- YES- the one I purchased, a Sea Service Musket, has been returned due to improper breeching on that musket. I have not heard back from them yet.
: Except for movie props, as from military/heritage.com, I know of no others that wuld need to have no vent drilled. The muskets form the noted dealer, are indeed capable of being fired and are meant to be fired. Nto only is there trouble with shipping guns in Canada, but Maryland (I believe)New York, and a number of countries where movies are made won't allow the shipment of quantities of working muskets into their areas. Have no vents solves this problem. Thee guns are meant to be fired- YES- the one I purchased, a Sea Service Musket, has been returned due to improper breeching on that musket. I have not heard back from them yet.
No problem here in God's own Upstate NY. Anything goes except for the five boroughs near THE CITY. We just ignore all the forms that say "check your local laws before ordering" and there's no problems. Those people shouldn't have vented guns, cars, sharp tableware, etc.
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To ship a single musket just about anywhere, probably wouldn't be a problem, especially when they are flinters, but when a large amount of guns/non-guns are being shipped in, GENERAL laws come into focus. As "The Disc. General"'s movie equipment supply company does just that, along with sending them to other Socialist countries, rules concerning these guns come under the same laws as any other gun - if in firing condition. Drilling the vents on-site, isn't a problem - it's the importation of "WORKING" guns that's causes difficulties.
: In the US, no BP guns are condsidered firearms, yet theya re identical to the ones used to gain your independence - Intresting. In Canada, Flintlocks aren't considered registerable firearms, yet al BP guns are still firearms, regardless of ignition. Cap Locks are deemed to be no different than any '06 you might also have as far as being a firearm or having to be registered, here. Because the touchholes aren't drilled, they, even the flint handguns, can be sent in regular mail or by truck wihtout difficulty. Once the touch-holes are drilled, they become firearms & the handguns become restricted, registered firearms. Possession of one drilled, without it being registered is a Federal Criminal offense. I am stil waiting on SOME paper work on the flint handgun I made- still no word - no paper work of any sort. NOONE of the handguns that are sold by that outfit have been registered, or they would have come to surface when I tried to register the one I built.
; This all reminds me I haven't heard from The Disc General about the musket I sent them for inspection and proofing.- Letter sent.
: In the US, no BP guns are condsidered firearms, yet theya re identical to the ones used to gain your independence - Intresting. In Canada, Flintlocks aren't considered registerable firearms, yet al BP guns are still firearms, regardless of ignition. Cap Locks are deemed to be no different than any '06 you might also have as far as being a firearm or having to be registered, here. Because the touchholes aren't drilled, they, even the flint handguns, can be sent in regular mail or by truck wihtout difficulty. Once the touch-holes are drilled, they become firearms & the handguns become restricted, registered firearms. Possession of one drilled, without it being registered is a Federal Criminal offense. I am stil waiting on SOME paper work on the flint handgun I made- still no word - no paper work of any sort. NOONE of the handguns that are sold by that outfit have been registered, or they would have come to surface when I tried to register the one I built.
; This all reminds me I haven't heard from The Disc General about the musket I sent them for inspection and proofing.- Letter sent.
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