Original Brown Bess

[sturmkatze]

Man, what an adult helpful comment I sure appreciate it. This forum seems to be the epitome of professionalism. Glad I came here seeking help from “professionals”.

So? Truth is truth. If it weren't greed, you'd leave it in the museum like your father did. You just want the money. Don't act all high and mighty.

 

[sturmkatze]

This forum is full of overweight, overripe old men who squeeze into thier buck skins and squeeze off a few groups at a 50 yd range and like to think thier mountain men. They way they complain has me convinced there all HOA board members

I don't wear buckskin, nor do I think that I'm a "mountain man". What I said is the truth and whilst it causes him to need mydol, it's the truth

 

[BatBoy]

Those telling the OP what to do with his property can go buy their own Brown Bess and donate it to the Alamo.

 

[Uncle Miltie]

FWIW Phil Collins donated his Alamo collection worth millions to the museum and the American people.

 

[springfield art]

Hello all,

I am posting out of curiosity, and the idea that all things are for sale for the right price. Most will tell me to keep this musket, but I have my reasons for possibly selling.

I’ll tell the information I “know” about this musket.

My father loaned this Dublin stamped Brown Bess to The Alamo in 1980. It stayed on display there for decades, until last year I made the move to remove it, as my father had put a clause in his contract with them. It was an extremely hard task bringing this musket out of The Alamo and into my possession. They said it has never been done before and they were extremely upset about losing it, as it was the only example of this model of Brown Bess they had.

I believe it’s a Pattern 1777 Short Land Musket, marked Dublin Castle. I have all of the paperwork from The Alamo.

I can send more photos or specific information if asked.

I recall reading about this. I'm happy you had it returned; a loan is a loan! I'm actually surprised someone didn't say, 'oops, it's been stolen, sorry!' Ask the Alamo if they want to buy it! There's lots of money amongst the society folks that have their kids baptised there, etc.

 

[springfield art]

Man you’d thought I committed a crime for posting a for sale bess in the classified. Thank y’all who showed interest and I’ll talk to rock island island also. I came here first as I had a thread open when I actually went through the battle of getting it and some good advice was offered.

Morphy auction also handles many high-end items.

 

[manbat]

FWIW Phil Collins donated his Alamo collection worth millions to the museum and the American people.

Phil Collins is in bad shape health-wise, is currently worth $300 million dollars, and will pass his royalties down to his family when gone. Not much of a comparison to one man looking to cash out on one so-called museum rifle. So NWVM.

 

[Uncle Miltie]

Phil Collins is in bad shape health-wise, is currently worth $300 million dollars, and will pass his royalties down to his family when gone. Not much of a comparison to one man looking to cash out on one so-called museum rifle. So NWVM.

It was not my intent to make a comparison; rather, to add a bit of levity to a conversation that had gone downhill...

 

[springfield art]

Phil Collins is in bad shape health-wise, is currently worth $300 million dollars, and will pass his royalties down to his family when gone. Not much of a comparison to one man looking to cash out on one so-called museum rifle. So NWVM.

I believe the musket was/is an original example of the Type Brown Bess used by the Mexicans who were armed with such surplus. (Not a rifle). The Museum should get a quality copy of that type musket to display in order to show the public what the Mexican army was using at the battle.

 

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very nice, rare piece you have there. i wish i had it in my collection of rev war stuff.. its a shame that there are so many here that really need to get a life. they seem to think they are forum cops , or just need something to complain about to make them happy.

 

[PathfinderNC]

The stock is very interesting in that it doesn’t have the more typical comb nose as other Bess muskets, but just slopes down to the wrist. Maybe @dave_person has some information about this stock shape.

 

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they never gave pee wee back his bike

 

[dave_person]

Hi Bob,
Someone probably rounded it down so they can get their face to line up with the barrel after its service life. The pattern 1777 had a pretty straight stock and was not easy to fit for accurate shooting unless you were built like an ape with no neck. The musket has been altered during its life but it still has all the attributes that give it value as a rare gun. The gun likely did not spend much of its life in dry parts of Texas. It has severe corrosion and what looks like powder post beetle damage. Those are typically evidence of a damp environments. Perhaps northeastern Texas or somewhere wetter.

dave

 

[PathfinderNC]

Hi Bob,
Someone probably rounded it down so they can get their face to line up with the barrel after its service life. The pattern 1777 had a pretty straight stock and was not easy to fit for accurate shooting unless you were built like an ape with no neck. The musket has been altered during its life but it still has all the attributes that give it value as a rare gun. The gun likely did not spend much of its life in dry parts of Texas. It has severe corrosion and what looks like powder post beetle damage. Those are typically evidence of a damp environments. Perhaps northeastern Texas or somewhere wetter.

dave

That's good info there. If it was my gun I would bring it up to have you look at it first-hand. You are a great authority.

 

[springfield art]

So? Truth is truth. If it weren't greed, you'd leave it in the museum like your father did. You just want the money. Don't act all high and mighty.

One could donate it to the museum and take a nice tax-write off.

 

[mark_fare]

Man, what an adult helpful comment I sure appreciate it. This forum seems to be the epitome of professionalism. Glad I came here seeking help from “professionals”.

Flintlock12, get used to it. I'm comiserating with you.

 

[sturmkatze]

Those telling the OP what to do with his property can go buy their own Brown Bess and donate it to the Alamo.

His father did. He just wants to squeeze the money out. They weren't gonna sell it.

 

[BatBoy]

His father did. He just wants to squeeze the money out. They weren't gonna sell it.

BS

His father loaned the Brown Bess to the Alamo. If the father wanted the Brown Bess to stay with the Alamo, he could have just given it them. He didn’t, so it now belongs to the son. The son can dispose of it as he sees fit.

I love all you closet socialists telling a grown man what he should or shouldn’t do with his property.

The OP can paint the BB purple for all I care. He can tie a boat anchor to it and throw it in ocean. He can also squeeze every single penny he can get for it. It’s his property to sell.

What hypothetically you or other detractors would do is irrelevant. You don’t own it and I really doubt many would do any different if they found themselves in the same shoes. We’ll never know, because you aren’t in his situation and it isn’t your property.

 

[hawkeye2]

Tell it like it is BatBoy!

 

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you go batboy