Pillow Ticking "Shot Cups"

[CrackStock]

A bit more percolating...

Years ago, I was playing with paper cartridges from old brown paper bags. I always tore mine off at the top to avoid having a single projectile going into the target.

While toying with this project, I made some soft leather shot bags and used flared copper tubing as a pour spout. I then hand filed a wooden plug that was split in the round portion to go into the tube. I used a thin wedge to regulate the tightness of this stopper.

Seems to be not far from some ideas here. The stopper could be adapted to push the patch strip into place and the tube could be a measure. The whole thing could be a detachable part of the semi soft shot bag/container.

Just thinking out loud along your lines.

 

[BrownBear]

I can see where you're going (or is it "been?") and I like the angles you're playing with.

Did you grease the stuffings out of that paper like I'm planning to try to limit bore fouling, or did you just use it dry?

 

[roundball]

Soft shot flasks are a PITA. I tried my copper powder flask before ever getting around to making the doohicky, and though the tube was great for seating the patch, the hole into the flask was too small. Even #6 shot bridged bad.

Next I tried the rigid leather ball bag I use for 62 cal balls. That worked great, but in combo with the shape, the "neck" was a little short for convenient pouring.

Simple solution:

 

[BrownBear]

Different plastic bottles (actually 35mm film cannisters), but I played a lot with self-contained loads back when I was shooting ducks and ptarmigan a lot, as well as a little on rabbits. It was fine for ptarmigan because I was doing that mostly in warmer weather. But man, when it came to cold duck seasons, I just couldn't manage them with gloves. Good thought though.

If I was more inclined that way, I'd be looking for containers that worked better with gloves and cold hands. And naturally fumbly fingers! :wink:

 

[Twice boom]

A bit more percolating...

Years ago, I was playing with paper cartridges from old brown paper bags. I always tore mine off at the top to avoid having a single projectile going into the target.

While toying with this project, I made some soft leather shot bags and used flared copper tubing as a pour spout. I then hand filed a wooden plug that was split in the round portion to go into the tube. I used a thin wedge to regulate the tightness of this stopper.

Seems to be not far from some ideas here. The stopper could be adapted to push the patch strip into place and the tube could be a measure. The whole thing could be a detachable part of the semi soft shot bag/container.

Just thinking out loud along your lines.

Here is something along your lines that I made about three years ago for myself. It's a shot snake and a powder charger.

And here is how it's worn.

And the back side.

Twice.

 

[BrownBear]

That looks like a handy rig. I particularly like that harness, which would keep it all from flopping around as I bent and twisted through thick brush. I've seen them both on the same side which appeals to my dominant hand issues, but fine work like this could make me consider the alternate arrangement.

 

[Twice boom]

That looks like a handy rig. I particularly like that harness, which would keep it all from flopping around as I bent and twisted through thick brush. I've seen them both on the same side which appeals to my dominant hand issues, but fine work like this could make me consider the alternate arrangement.

Thanks. A good friend (Doc Baker from Cincinnati ) loaned what he said was original from the late 17 hundred to copy. I have not been able to document authenticity yet. The only thing different between his and mine is that his was intended to be used as a double shot charger to where mines intent is to use as a shot charger and as a powder flask. The shot charger works well with the Irish type chargers , not so good if you are not careful with the powder side.

I have reworked the cut off disk to keep the powder from slipping by that I have great difficulty reinserting the charge cup back in its housing. Unless I manually lift the cut off disc enough for the cup charger to get a start ..

I’m thinking that I might be better off to exchange one of the Irish loaders for an English type. If not that ,then the next step will be to take off a spout from one of my replica powder flasks and use that..

I can say one thing though, it is a joy to use in the field ..
Twice.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

You guys are having way too much fun but if you aren't careful you'll mess around and Invent something. :haha:

 

[BrownBear]

You guys are having way too much fun but if you aren't careful you'll mess around and Invent something. :haha:

Ah man, that's a scary thought! :grin:

Actually I've been an inventor all my life, but along the Red Green line of creativity. I'm pretty surprised no one has come up with a version with duct tape on it! :rotf:

 

[Twice boom]

oops! :redface: right post/ wrong thread. :haha:

Twice.

 

[rabjr]

I don't use Duct tape :barf: I use the real stuff, E B Green. :thumbsup: Can fix anythin with that stuff!

 

[BrownBear]

Ah man, I just had a vision of a Red Green doohicky. Cut the neck off a plastic drink bottle for the funnel and duct tape it to a piece of copper tubing. Hmmmmmmmm. :grin:

 

[rabjr]

You laugh...that would work ya know! :haha:

 

[BrownBear]

No kidding. But do you think I'd catch a little grief for posting the pics? :rotf:

But the chain of thoughts got me to thinking about a rawhide funnel.

 

[CrackStock]

Your powder and shot shoulder harness looks suspiciously like my Miami Classic shoulder holster. Nice work and concept. Theirs and yours.

 

[Twice boom]

Your powder and shot shoulder harness looks suspiciously like my Miami Classic shoulder holster. Nice work and concept. Theirs and yours.

I can take credit for the workmanship ,the concept is someone elses...
Thanks for the kind words and would like very much to see your shoulder holster rig.
Twice.

 

[roundball]

Saw these while looking through a new catalog...didn’t know if they were anything that could be used for the patched-shot idea”¦

Blackpowder spout kit”¦various sizes
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search_catalog_command.cmd?fromProductSearch=true&item1=FB 21-3417

Goes with this blackpowder funnel
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search_catalog_command.cmd?fromProductSearch=true&item1=FB 21-0367

 

[Clovis]

Brown Bear, I'm curious about using non-toxic shot in this system for waterfowl. Specifically, have you tried it? If you have, have you found any sign of the shot tearing through the patch and scratching the bore? If not would you think the patch would protect the bore from damage or am I stuck using plastic shot cup/wads? If I were to use this I would be using a 12 gauge New Englander with no choke on the geese and ducks here in Maryland.

 

[roundball]

I'm not BrownBear, but in the case of steel shot for example, I think if you'll compare the thick hard strong shot cup used wih steel, you'll probably agree that cloth wouldn't protect the bore

 

[Golfswithwolves]

Bismuth shot or NiceShot both are supposed to be as safe as lead shot with any barrels