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[Claude Mathis]

1. Respect the authority and follow the directive of the Board of Directors, and Rules and Regulations of the Association recognizing at all times that each member is an extension of the Association;

2. Respect the civil and legal rights of all members;

3. Serve each task with the good of the Association in mind, with no purpose of personal gain;

4. Encourage relationships with associates of such character to promote mutual respect within the black powder shooting sports environment and improvement of its quality of service;

5. Respect the importance of all elements of black powder shooting sports and cultivate a professional cooperation with each segment;

6. Share information with the public with openness and candor;

7. Be diligent in his/her responsibility to record and make available for review any and all information which could contribute to sound decisions affecting the Association or the public safety;

8. Report without reservation any corrupt or unethical behavior which could affect either a member or the integrity of the Association;

9. Maintain the integrity of private information;

10. Clearly distinguish between those public statements that are personal views and those that are statements and positions on behalf of the NMLRA;

11. Not discriminate against any member, prospective member, or employee on the basis of race, sex, creed, national origin, or type of muzzleloader.

:agree: eace:

Sounds good, but I'm not a member of the NMLRA. eace:

 

I vote yes

 

[Huntinfool]

You vote yes I didn't know it was a voting thing!

If it was a voting thing number 11 kind of sticks in my crawl a little bit! :crackup:

Chuck
TMA President

 

[roundball]

1. Respect the authority and follow the directive of the Board of Directors, and Rules and Regulations of the Association recognizing at all times that each member is an extension of the Association;

2. Respect the civil and legal rights of all members;

3. Serve each task with the good of the Association in mind, with no purpose of personal gain;

4. Encourage relationships with associates of such character to promote mutual respect within the black powder shooting sports environment and improvement of its quality of service;

5. Respect the importance of all elements of black powder shooting sports and cultivate a professional cooperation with each segment;

6. Share information with the public with openness and candor;

7. Be diligent in his/her responsibility to record and make available for review any and all information which could contribute to sound decisions affecting the Association or the public safety;

8. Report without reservation any corrupt or unethical behavior which could affect either a member or the integrity of the Association;

9. Maintain the integrity of private information;

10. Clearly distinguish between those public statements that are personal views and those that are statements and positions on behalf of the NMLRA;

11. Not discriminate against any member, prospective member, or employee on the basis of race, sex, creed, national origin, or type of muzzleloader.

:agree: eace:

This appears to be something lifted from the NMLRA...and item #11 is the main reason why I'm no longer a member.

 

[CrackStock]

I am a member and will remain so. I want to support any organization that supports the shooting sports. I may not like the newer ML guns, but I am still a proud member of the NMLRA.

Besides, my instructor certification is through the NMLRA and they have very valuable materials and a real program.

CS

 

[roundball]

I am a member and will remain so. I want to support any organization that supports the shooting sports. I may not like the newer ML guns, but I am still a proud member of the NMLRA.

Besides, my instructor certification is through the NMLRA and they have very valuable materials and a real program.

CS

I think that's great for you...enjoy

 

[Dave Poss]

Wow...that really sounded good.....right up to no.10 and 11. It's sorta like reading todays lottery numbers and thinking you hit it big because all your numbers match ,only to realize your ticket was for last weeks drawing!!!

No.11- well, that one comes down to a persons definition of a "muzzleloader".That's why I'm with the TMA...I like our definition. eace:

 

I vote fer no.6 !! :thumbsup:

YMHS
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[Gary]

Arrggh! Too many things to remember. We can distill it down to one word and one word only: Don't. :m2c:

 

[Huntinfool]

Huntinfool,

If it was a voting thing number 11 kind of sticks in my crawl a little bit!

Well I'll admit I reworded # 11 it a little bit. But then number five says the same thing.
Old Salt

Your logic escapes me why in the world would you post something and claim it to be from any group but then reword it!

Doesn't make sense to me unless you're looking to start a controversy!

Chuck Goodall
TMA President
Hunting Editor
Buckskinner Magazine

 

[roundball]

Well I'll admit I reworded # 11 it a little bit. But then number five says the same thing.
Old Salt

MAJOR Faux Paux...this is presented in a manner that allows a reader to conclude it's an official NMLRA document.

PS: And they don't need any more help changing the original 1933 intent and purpose of the NMLRA.

 

[Ohio Joe]

Old Salt,

Nothing wrong with a code of ethics. However, ethics for organizations must be based on individual organizational by-laws, rules, and mission statement.

An example would be that the TMA has a 1900 cutoff date. This is not descrimination, this is the rule of the TMA. It must be upheld to the highest degree, and can not be changed, ever, my friend.

Parts of any "Code of Ethics" will not always fit within the structure of all organizations. That is why each organization has its own uniqueness about it. :thumbsup:

 

[Stumpkiller]

Number four partially contradicts number 11. " . . . within the black powder sports" eliminates Pyrodex and Triple 7. But I like it. :redthumb:

Number 2: Does that mean we can ignore or are encouraged to walk all over the legal and civil rights of non members as a plank of the organization? Cool.

Number 5. Again with the black powder; but that's good. Having to charge for cooperation seems a bit much. I give it out amaturely cause I don't get paid for this. ("Professional" implies for a fee).

What do we need a code of ethics for, anyway.

I have mine:

1. Tell the truth.

2. Never do anything you would be ashamed to tell your mother about.

3. Believe in God, or Allah, or Buddah, or Odin one-eye. Don't matter as long as you believe in something.

4. Give anyone the benefit of doubt, but withhold your social security number and bank information until you've determined whether they obey rules #1 and #2.

5. Always leave something for the next guy. Whether it's game, fish or firewood at a trail shelter.

 

I vote for "no.6"!! (Counting my threads may involve stitches):thumbsup:

YMHS
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[Claude Mathis]

I feel like I walked into the middle of a conversation and missed the most important part. Who is the code of ethics for and why is it here? ::

Is it for the TMA?

 

I feel like I walked into the middle of a conversation and missed the most important part. Who is the code of ethics for and why is it here? ::

Is it for the TMA?

Danged if I know Claude,.... I was jest want'n to "vote" on sumpthin!! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

YMHS
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[SquirrelsaurusR]

...why is it here?

I was going to ask the same thing. What was the purpose of posting the NMLRA's rules here? ::

 

[shmrck1]

Old Salt,
who was this ethics statement posted for :: :: :: and why????
did you hit a wrong button, or what???
i know its happened to me but what were your intentions
when you posted it. i'm still ::
snake-eyes :hmm: eace: :hmm: :hmm: :thumbsup: :hmm:

 

[Stumpkiller]

Well, everybody should have something to stand for. I was just helpin Old Salt out. ::

He never said what it was fer. Does it matter? Do we behave differently depending on our affiliations? :nono:

 

I can't understand why a group of guys would be willing to put out the effort to form a new organization rather than use the same energy to redirect an existing oganization that appears to have gone astray.

:m2c:

Old Salt

Old Salt,.... Have you ever heard the old story 'bout "Humpty Dumpty"???? :hmm: :m2c:

YMHS
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