Real Hawken or not?

[Herb]

Yes, there were brass mounted Hawkens. I think this one is in the Cody Firearms Museum, though they did not have it out when I examined and measured their Hawkens a few years ago. This photo is from Jim Gordon's book. I built a rifle from these pictures, mine shown above. I left off the patch box. It was for a young woman. You can right click twice to enlarge the photo.

 

[Notchy Bob]

Yes, there were brass mounted Hawkens. I think this one is in the Cody Firearms Museum, though they did not have it out when I examined and measured their Hawkens a few years ago. This photo is from Jim Gordon's book. I built a rifle from these pictures, mine shown above. I left off the patch box. It was for a young woman. You can right click twice to enlarge the photo.View attachment 271336View attachment 271338

Beautiful work, Herb! I’ll bet that was one happy gal when she got that rifle.

Notchy Bob

 

[CaptainVane]

Sorry I asked the question. I guess as a long time member of NMLRA and been shooting flints since before you were born, I deserved your sarcasm. Farking jerk.

 

[bptactical]

Sorry I asked the question. I guess as a long time member of NMLRA and been shooting flints since before you were born, I deserved your sarcasm. Farking jerk.

There is only one “Farking jerk” in this incredible thread.

 

[HighUintas]

Any recent updates?

 

[Rudyard]

My mentor loaned me 2 books on Hawken rifles by the same author about 12 years ago.
IIRC the name on the barrel gives many clues as to the time frame.
I think... but aren't certain, the book spoke of barrels bought from different vendors, at different times.
I'll see if I can borrow them again.

Dear Eterry I think I still have J. D .Bairds books but dislike Hawkens . I made two for patrons but wouldn't lug one anywhere .But then few would fool with Scots Snaphance's or Turkish Guns ? .All a matter of' taste' or lack of it . I once wrote for his magazine but he wrote like a Bulldozer driver which he was . little details like historical accuracy got er altered . Charles Hanson set the historical truth strait but by then the" Gotta get a Hawken "cult was firmly tooled up to exaggerate its place in History . Biard was at a NMLRA Western R vous on the Flathead River . Only R vous I got too via a freight train out of Spokane to Whitefish Mo ( Curtesey of Burlington Northerns excellent service . I was greeted by a Marshal with his riot gun but it was simply to check see if some cad who shot some one in Spokane had caught the freight . & I later visited Hansons Museum of the Fur Trade at Chadron Neb. Do you want the Books ?
Cheers Rudyard

 

[Eterry]

Dear Eterry I think I still have J. D .Bairds books but dislike Hawkens . I made two for patrons but wouldn't lug one anywhere .But then few would fool with Scots Snaphance's or Turkish Guns ? .All a matter of' taste' or lack of it . I once wrote for his magazine but he wrote like a Bulldozer driver which he was . little details like historical accuracy got er altered . Charles Hanson set the historical truth strait but by then the" Gotta get a Hawken "cult was firmly tooled up to exaggerate its place in History . Biard was at a NMLRA Western R vous on the Flathead River . Only R vous I got too via a freight train out of Spokane to Whitefish Mo ( Curtesey of Burlington Northerns excellent service . I was greeted by a Marshal with his riot gun but it was simply to check see if some cad who shot some one in Spokane had caught the freight . & I later visited Hansons Museum of the Fur Trade at Chadron Neb. Do you want the Books ?
Cheers Rudyard

Yes. I'll pm you.