Red’s Incredible Traditions Kentucky Build: Probably not what you would have done…

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I passed mine on to my oldest son over Christmas. It shoots better than the GPR that I am calling “mine” for now. The GPR has a little roughtness in the barrel somewhere. I tried to embellish it a little. A couple photos after being finished and one of its first season in the woods. If doing it again I would take some wood off the nose. It slaps m check some.
That is one of the best of these I have seen built. Great job on shaping the lock panel, that is one of the most important parts of making one of these look right!
 
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have fun with the build (the lock is the weakest part of the gun I replaced it with the L&R, and a trigger pinnedView attachment 217850 through the stock)View attachment 217851View attachment 217853100 yrd sight in 65grns swiss 3f 490 ball #40 drill cloth tallow lubeView attachment 217855
One good thing is, it’s wood. If you really mess it up, you can get a new piece more to your liking
I was discussing it with my father before dinner last night. He taught me how to build balsa airplanes way back about 1969. I said that balsa was a lot easier to shape. Nice and soft a sanded easy. And cheap. If you messed it up, you are out a buck maybe. Even with this inexpensive kit, you’re still out a good chunk if you mess it up.
I’m not too worried with it though. It will be fun to look back on, as so many in here have, and say, “Yeah, that was my first build….”
My friend that makes the custom knives now, beautiful, slick, expensive…I was there when he was making his first ones. Heavy, clunky, difficult to open, or close. I grabbed three or four of these from his “trash wall”, where he stuck the mess ups. I always threaten to start posting pics of them up on the internet if he gives me crap, LOL! Point is, we all start somewhere. As long as we start, and keep moving, we will eventually get there.
-Red, waxing philosophic…
 
That is one of the best of these I have seen built. Great job on shaping the lock panel, that is one of the most important parts of making one of these look right!
He did nail that thing, didn’t he? There are a ton of videos of guys who basically assembled the kit, slapped stain on it, and started shooting it, all rough and ugly. And then there are guys who take a basic kit, and do that bit extra that transforms it, makes it their own.
Either one is fine, I guess. To each his own, but I really like watching the guys “polish a turd” as someone commented on Phil Coffins thread. There’s just something about redeeming that which is of no, or little, value…
I have resto-modded three campers. A 1961 canned ham by Layton, a 1974 AirStream, and a 23 footer out of the 90’s. I’m working on a 1999 36’ diesel pusher motor home right now, making it our own design basically. All of them, except the pusher, we’re completely derelict and left to die. The canned ham and the Airstream I sold for some good money. The 90’s model I gave to my daughter and son-in-law. All three really get attention when you take them somewhere.
One day, I’ll do a REALLY nice build (hopefully), when I learn what I’m doing. But for now I’ll keep polishing this turd. Hoping to do like so many others on here have done. Make it nice enough that when you take it somewhere, people say “That’s a Traditions kit? Damn!”
Might not happen, but I can try.
-Red, wondering why he is up so early…
 
He did nail that thing, didn’t he? There are a ton of videos of guys who basically assembled the kit, slapped stain on it, and started shooting it, all rough and ugly. And then there are guys who take a basic kit, and do that bit extra that transforms it, makes it their own.
Either one is fine, I guess. To each his own, but I really like watching the guys “polish a turd” as someone commented on Phil Coffins thread. There’s just something about redeeming that which is of no, or little, value…
I have resto-modded three campers. A 1961 canned ham by Layton, a 1974 AirStream, and a 23 footer out of the 90’s. I’m working on a 1999 36’ diesel pusher motor home right now, making it our own design basically. All of them, except the pusher, we’re completely derelict and left to die. The canned ham and the Airstream I sold for some good money. The 90’s model I gave to my daughter and son-in-law. All three really get attention when you take them somewhere.
One day, I’ll do a REALLY nice build (hopefully), when I learn what I’m doing. But for now I’ll keep polishing this turd. Hoping to do like so many others on here have done. Make it nice enough that when you take it somewhere, people say “That’s a Traditions kit? Damn!”
Might not happen, but I can try.
-Red, wondering why he is up so early…
I like your style!
 
He did nail that thing, didn’t he? There are a ton of videos of guys who basically assembled the kit, slapped stain on it, and started shooting it, all rough and ugly. And then there are guys who take a basic kit, and do that bit extra that transforms it, makes it their own.
Either one is fine, I guess. To each his own, but I really like watching the guys “polish a turd” as someone commented on Phil Coffins thread. There’s just something about redeeming that which is of no, or little, value…
I have resto-modded three campers. A 1961 canned ham by Layton, a 1974 AirStream, and a 23 footer out of the 90’s. I’m working on a 1999 36’ diesel pusher motor home right now, making it our own design basically. All of them, except the pusher, we’re completely derelict and left to die. The canned ham and the Airstream I sold for some good money. The 90’s model I gave to my daughter and son-in-law. All three really get attention when you take them somewhere.
One day, I’ll do a REALLY nice build (hopefully), when I learn what I’m doing. But for now I’ll keep polishing this turd. Hoping to do like so many others on here have done. Make it nice enough that when you take it somewhere, people say “That’s a Traditions kit? Damn!”
Might not happen, but I can try.
-Red, wondering why he is up so early…
You are correct! Wether you slim it down and embellish it or just stain it the way it came! It will shoot the same!!
Have fun with it and enjoy the process! You’ll make it shine!!
 
The Incredi-Build: Return of Panama Red
Day 2-
The wife has figured out what I am doing in the reloading shed. I accidentally left the door open a little too long, she walked by, and noticed the overall cleaned out/rearranged look of the shed. “Ooh, that looks nice! Wait, WHAT IS THIS???” she screeched…
I have barricaded myself in the big barn for now. I have a small supply of Gatorade and water in the barn fridge, but my food has run out.
I made a scouting run to see if I could make it to the main house last night at 0600z. The sentry, part chihuahua, part rat terrier, picked up my scent immediately and started the alarm bark. I made it back to my hide, but barely. I foolishly have left the keys to my truck hanging on the key rack inside the back door. I will wait for her to depart for her weekly game of dominoes with the girls, and make a dash for the keys.
I’m feeling weak from lack of food. It has now been an hour and a half since I have last eaten. I’m starting to hallucinate. I see things moving in the dark… It’s so cold…
-Red, in a tight spot
 
I built one about 18 months ago. I glued the stock halves together. It took time to fit them but time was well spent. Also, I moved the spacer to the end of the stock behind the muzzle cap. I bought a piece of beech, cut, glued, and shaped a filler. Turned out pretty good. I slimmed it down some, if I had it to do over I would take off more wood, but it's a working rifle. Have fun with your build.
 
Actually, tomorrow I am 500 days alcohol free. I don’t dare try one of the non-alcoholic beers. Man, I LOVE a good beer, along with some good bourbon… a little too much, lol! Afraid that would just set my mouth a little to much towards drinking again…
All the lunacy that is forth coming is from a completely sober mind. Enjoy!
36 years sober here bud. Reach out if needed!
 
Take your time and that will make a nice sparker, sure would like to see her when yer done.
Have fun and good luck.


"we do what we must"
Oh, you’ll see her! In all her glory! Matter of fact, I’m betting there will be quite a few that are tired of seeing her by the time I’m done with the build, LOL!
Thanks!
 
Hers an old CVA I rebuilt several years ago, hope it gives some inspiration what can be done. Inspiration, time and effort can pay off on those production rifles. Glued stock together, took off a lot of wood, faux stripe job, new trigger guard and nose cap. All the rest is CVA parts.
 

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The guy I’m watching on YouTube has mentioned long drying times, like ten days for VERY thin coats, and doing like 5 coats of it, sanding while wet, and rubbing the BLO/sawdust slurry in to the stock to fill the grain. I love the look he got on his. Very smooth, but not shiny. And what you stated was the main reason I went this direction, besides the smooth finish, it is very easy to blend any scratches you need to repair.
I say all this kkk no owing that I change my mind more than my wife changes purses, but that’s the plan.
-Red, an indecisive man…
I have done a bunch of guns with blo. I start the process before mounting any metal, sometimes before final inletting, the idea being that getting some oil on it prevents messy stains from anything else, and I want all of the inlet bits oiled to keep effects of moisture from getting under the metal bits. I usually warm the wood with a heat gun or hair dryer prior to applying oil with a cloth pad. One thin coat at a time, and rub it in thoroughly. Once a day for a week, once a week for a month, once a month for a year. If you apply sparingly each time, it only takes a couple of days to cure. After saying all of that, I find that a Tru-oil or Tung oil finish is just as pleasing, and a lot easier.
 
Hers an old CVA I rebuilt several years ago, hope it gives some inspiration what can be done. Inspiration, time and effort can pay off on those production rifles. Glued stock together, took off a lot of wood, faux stripe job, new trigger guard and nose cap. All the rest is CVA parts.
That is beautiful! Nice work. Will be referencing this as I proceed.
Thanks!
 
Make it nice enough that when you take it somewhere, people say “That’s a Traditions kit? Damn!”

And some will be saying or thinking "Thats a damn Traditions kit".

It won't matter what anyone says. You will have your own experience to " build" on.

You may find yourself outshooting some fancy high dollar guns. Been there, seen that. 😀
 
For all those concerned about the 2 piece stock and spacer, I wonder if a full stock version Hawken stock would be a close enough match to move all the Traditions Kentucky rifle hardware over to with some minor tweaking of course.
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Other than the Traditions being a sleeker, more elegant gun, they are almost identical…
-Red, stirring the puddin’…
 
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