Rifle will not fire?

[Superman5433]

Can the breach plug actual be taken off? It is 2 different metals as I see?

and I get that I seem like a rookie here, but not everyone with the answers had the answered before they had to ask also.

 

[Winchester97]

Dont try to remove the breech plug, I bet there is a dryball, or bad load in there...as mentioned earlier. Ball puller is the way to go

 

[Superman5433]

Dont try to remove the breech plug, I bet there is a dryball, or bad load in there...as mentioned earlier. Ball puller is the way to go

Will the puller work on Sabot ?

 

[SDSmlf]

Can the breach plug actual be taken off? It is 2 different metals as I see?

and I get that I seem like a rookie here, but not everyone with the answers had the answered before they had to ask also.View attachment 61115

Everyone has to take that first step, don’t take any comments personally.

Yes the breech plug can be removed, but not something to do without the proper tools. Exponentially more difficult than removing a stuck nipple. Question for you. Are you sure the gun was empty before you loaded it? Did you actually see the flow of water or air through the barrel and nipple?

 

[Winchester97]

Will the puller work on Sabot ?

It might, if its hollowpoint, or plastic tipped.

 

[Superman5433]

Everyone has to take that first step, don’t take any comments personally.

Yes the breech plug can be removed, but not something to do without the proper tools. Exponentially more difficult than removing a stuck nipple. Question for you. Are you sure the gun was empty before you loaded it? Did you actually see the flow of water or air through the barrel and nipple?

I honestly did not, I am sure it is clogged. I have ordered a puller and something to soak it in to see if it clears or comes loose. If the damn nipple would just come off I can simply clean the channel and put in a new one.

 

[SDSmlf]

Will the puller work on Sabot ?

We normally don’t discuss Sabots here, but yes there is a type of puller that will work. It has a collar to keep the threaded section of the puller centered on a conical bullet. I have one somewhere that I will post a photo of a bit later.

If you are sure there was a clear path between the nipple and the bore, removing the nipple and putting some blackpowder under it before reinstalling will work as long as your bullet is seated on the pellets. While a bit messy, once the nipple is removed you could also put a zerk fitting with the correct thread in the nipple hole and push the load out with a grease gun.

 

[Tom A Hawk]

The nipple will come out. Use penetrating oil and some patience.

 

[Zonie]

Superman
If the other methods of removing what ever is stuck in the barrel doesn't work, there is another solution. It is usually reserved for the last attempts to remove an obstruction because it is rather messy.

If you don't have one, go to your auto parts store and buy a pump type grease gun. Also buy several tubes of grease. The lowest cost grease you can find that will work in the grease gun.
Also, take the removed nipple with you when you go to the auto parts store.
Show the guy the nipple and tell him you want to buy a grease fitting zerk that will match the nipple threads. (Yes, zerk.)

When you get home, screw the zerk into the nipple hole using just your fingers to screw it in. It doesn't have to be tightend with a wrench but it must turn into the hole at least 3 revolutions.

Attack the grease gun and start pumping the grease into the zerk. Keep pumping grease until the barrel obstruction is forced out of the muzzle.

After you've done this, remove the zerk leaving the nipple hole open and start removing the grease. Don't forget to clean the flame channel between the bottom of the nipple hole and the bore. A couple of pipe cleaners can help to force the grease out of that little hole.
It's a messy job but it works every time.

 

[SDSmlf]

I honestly did not, I am sure it is clogged. I have ordered a puller and something to soak it in to see if it clears or comes loose. If the damn nipple would just come off I can simply clean the channel and put in a new one.

Problem with things being clogged is you don’t know what is in there. Could be a load left by the previous owner. That means you are down to pushing (grease gun) or pulling. I found photographs of my Sabot bullet puller. It has a collar that will center the threaded piece into the center of bullet. If plastic tipped, it will sometimes pull the plastic tip out first and requires a second go. If the sabot doesn’t come out with the bullet it takes a third attempt without the collar to catch the plastic. I only used it at the range to help others, but it does work. Using standard puller first can mess up the pistol bullet to the point where it is very difficult to pull no matter what you use.

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[Superman5433]

Superman
If the other methods of removing what ever is stuck in the barrel doesn't work, there is another solution. It is usually reserved for the last attempts to remove an obstruction because it is rather messy.

If you don't have one, go to your auto parts store and buy a pump type grease gun. Also buy several tubes of grease. The lowest cost grease you can find that will work in the grease gun.
Also, take the removed nipple with you when you go to the auto parts store.
Show the guy the nipple and tell him you want to buy a grease fitting zerk that will match the nipple threads. (Yes, zerk.)

When you get home, screw the zerk into the nipple hole using just your fingers to screw it in. It doesn't have to be tightend with a wrench but it must turn into the hole at least 3 revolutions.

Attack the grease gun and start pumping the grease into the zerk. Keep pumping grease until the barrel obstruction is forced out of the muzzle.

After you've done this, remove the zerk leaving the nipple hole open and start removing the grease. Don't forget to clean the flame channel between the bottom of the nipple hole and the bore. A couple of pipe cleaners can help to force the grease out of that little hole.
It's a messy job but it works every time.

Thanks very much

 

[ord sgt]

Do you have access to an air compressor? If so, you can use compressed air to force everything out of the barrel. Caution. Whatever is in the barrel will be ejected with a great deal of force. Be careful of which direction the barrel is pointed. I have used CO2 to expel barrel charges and they have shot downrange for close to 20 yards.

 

[deermanok]

You say the nipple won't come out. What are you using as a tool to remove it?

 

[Superman5433]

You say the nipple won't come out. What are you using as a tool to remove it?

A nipple wrench.

 

[Superman5433]

I have it soaking now, I will come back to it tomorrow.

Also, does this screw play a role in removing the nipple? I have never read that it would, but I have to ask.

 

[deermanok]

No, the little screw is sometimes referred to as a clean out screw.

 

[deermanok]

A good soak in penetrating oil should loosen up the threads. If your nipple wrench won't budge it, you can try a small socket on it. I think something like 8mm. Be firm but gentle too. Don't want to snap off the nipple. Not that you can't get a new one but you'll end up with more work.

 

[Rudall]

Can the breach plug actual be taken off? It is 2 different metals as I see?

and I get that I seem like a rookie here, but not everyone with the answers had the answered before they had to ask also.View attachment 61115

Is that a crack in the stock?

 

[Griz44Mag]

STOP USING PELLETS
They are not made to work on a sidelock with a nipple.
When all else fails RTFI - BEFORE you use the gun...........

 

[wb78963]

since that rust that burns, sort of, perhaps priming the nipple with FFFFg real Black Gunpowder, which is what the gun was made for and perhaps you might get it to go BANG.
If it goes BANG clean it immediately with lots of warm water every day for three or four days. After which use a good gun oil in the barrel to protect it.
Then throw those **** (word deleted) pellets in the trash and get some Honest To God Real Black Gunpowder.
I am baffled about this love affair with That "P" stuff. Poison also starts with a P.
Bunk