Rule #1

[Moose_Meat]

Always treat every fairarm as if it is loaded.

My buddy back in IL called me last night and says Guess what? Bob (name changed to protect the insane) just fired off his Muzzloader off.

I said COOL !

He says well NOT COOL he was in my basement, he thought he was being funny and fired a cap off at the deer poster on the wall and took out a cinder block.

My friend’s wife called 911 she thought the furnace exploded.

Asked where is Bob now? He says trying to explaining to his Captain how it went off with out being loaded.

Oh did I forget to mention he is a police officer with around 25 years of service. I bet this doesn’t hit the police blotter.

 

[Stubert]

I was at a gun show last week, looking at a used Investarms 54 cal. When I slid the ramrod down the barrel to feel for rust it stopped 2" from the breech. I asked the person selling it, if he knew he had a loaded rifle in his booth. He told me I was wrong and didn't know what I was talking about. So I asked him if I could snap a cap on it. He wouldn't talk after that and asked me to leave his area. I have been shooting black since the early 70's and I know It WAS loaded. Ya'all gotta be carefull, Stubert

 

[Norskie]

Clause A to rule # 1: Never take anybody's word that a gun is not loaded. See Mark Twain and Robert Heinlein.
Moose

 

[Robert an saa fan]

When I find a loaded muzzleloader at a gunshow and the exhibitor will not remove it from their table... it is reported to the show promoter and or show security.

Not to rag on law enforcement... at one show about ten years ago an off duty officer was looking to trade in his little backup semi-auto... as he took it out and tried to clear it he shot through the exhibitors's table.

In November at a major show a knife guy was doing something with a shotgun he had brought to sell... fired a round of buckshot into the ceiling... he wet his pants :cursing:

we later heard he was cited by police. :v

 

[jethro224]

Hmmm... I'm thinkin' "Bob" is in for a firearm training refresher course...
He should consider himself lucky. It could have easily been much worse.
I've drilled it into my daughters head every chance I get. EVERY GUN IS A LOADED GUN! ALWAYS!

 

[crockett]

Them thar cops is awful bad shots, thet's fer sure. Couple of yars ago I was at the range and this guy has plastic milk jugs on the plinking range. Plowing up the dirt all round them. Had an "automatic".
Well I thought that was purty funny all right so I gits to laughing ceptin his buddy says "He aint kidding around!!"
I says" Are you really trying to hit them targets, why don't you try throwing a baseball?"
His buddy says, "It's worse than that, he's a cop!"
I gave him my Navy 51 and says try a revolver, bang, bang bang. Three dead milk jugs. A smile comes over this guy's face, first time he could hit anything. He asks me if I thought he should get a revolver.
I says,"nope, if I were you I'd try another line of work"

 

[philo426]

I always treat a gun as if it is loaded unless I personally check it myself.My Dad told me many years ago"Never point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy".Sage advice indeed.

 

[soggy]

Not trying to hijack your thread Moose meat, cause you're right that could have been tragic! But here's a link to a little story that has been playing out up here where I live.
I doubt if the results would have been the same if it were a civilian who had a little "melt down"
Soggy
Link : http://www.herald.ns.ca/Front/557854.html

 

[Halftail]

Double standards Soggy Double standards.
One set of rules for us peasents up here in Canada and another set for others.I'd like to see what would have happened if it were a regular Joe like you or me........Not that I'M Regular... :blah:

 

[wolfe28]

You all just hit on one of my major pet peaves! Butch, a gun collector who passed away a few years ago, was one of the assistant Scout Masters in the Boy Scout troup I grew up in. He made darn sure that we all learned that you treat every gun as if it is loaded, until you can prove otherwise, YOURSELF. Rule #2 was always point the gun in a safe direction.
Regards rule #1 being a big pet peave of mine, I refuse to shop at any gun shop that employs people who cannot check to make sure a gun is unloaded. There have been several times that the guy behind the counter was a "friend" of the owner, and when I asked to look at something, I wound up getting a gun pointed at my belt buckle. When I get out of the way, I usually get a funny look like I have lost my mind. Any time that has happened, I usually inform the owner (politely, mind you) that he just lost potential business because his employees do not know anything about what they are doing, as I am leaving the store.
There are just some things I absolutely will not tolerate, and having a gun pointed at me is one of them.
D

 

[Moose_Meat]

Double standards I would have to agree.

And I should have checked my spelling a little closer.

 

[Zonie]

Stubert: Just be glad the seller didn't walk out back and hand it to you to "fire".
I bought a muzzleloader at a show and it turned out to be loaded with smokeless powder. :shocked2:
zonie

 

[RenegadeGuy54]

I bought a muzzleloader at a show and it turned out to be loaded with smokeless powder. :shocked2:
zonie

One of My rules with muzzleloading: Don't let anyone else load my gun. :nono: :nono:

 

[sidelock]

I was in a local gun shop a few years ago when a young fellow came in with a bolt action he wanted to trade. The clerk asked if th rifle was unloaded. The answer was yes. With that the clerk pointed the rifle at the ceiling and opened the bolt and---- a round flew out. The clerk turned red, emptied the mag. and handed the rifle back to the young fellow and said in no uncertain terms, GET THE HE-- OUT OF HERE AND NEVER COME IN THAT DOOR AGAIN. :shake: :shake: :shake:

 

[Slamfire]

A fellow I worked with failed his hunter's safety course. His crime, accepting a firearme that he didn't witness being cleared. :nono:

 

[Pittsburghunter]

I treat all weapons as loaded no matter if I just cleaned the thing myself. An accidental discharge of any arm can kill so I make it a duty that all arms are carried in a safe manor on the range or hunting.

If you get sloopy "I just cleaned it chill out" doesn't fly with me. If you want to dry fire a cleaned weapon it must be in a safe direction with more than one person saying it is clear if you are not alone.

I know I am paranoid but I have never had an accidental discharge in my home or cars. I had it happen to me once in the field when I was 13 lowering the hammer on a model 94 and I thank god I paid attention at the hunters safety course I took the year before and had the gun pointed in a safe direction.

 

[Mad Professor]

I was out chuck hunting with a friend, using a since recalled 700 BDL Rem. Never had it happen before or since, but when we were done and packing up, taking the gun off safety to unload discharged it! My friend about %$#&ed his pants and I was trying to figuire out what happened? Thankfully gun was pointed at the ground and rifle went back to remington for recall.

Anyway, rule #1 was in effect as was rule #2.......still scared the ......out of me!

 

[renovato]

Just cuz it's a muzzleloader doesn't mean the safety rules are different. Actually, there's more of them, like not smoking near black powder.

 

[AzShooter]

Not smoking near the loading bench is one of my favorite pet peaves. Today while shooting the guy next to me was also shooting a BP and was smoking while loading. Talking to him he was new to the sport and I explained how dangerous it was. I also moved down the bench a bit more.

 

[camo trky]

buddy of mine was given an old dbl shotgun it was a bit rusty so he cleaned it up. He put it away for the night(he stores his guns in his upstairs bed room closet)In the morning after his wife went to work he got the gun out to see how the shells fit the chambers. Dropped in two shells (just happen to be slugs)closed it up and both barrels went off through the floor and took out 2 feet of ceiling over top his frig :redface: