Scheels LIMITS Caps?!?

[maillemaker]

As far as you know, is anyone investigating the holdup at the border. Is RWS still manufacturing caps but unable for one reason or another able to export into the United States?

I do not know where the bottleneck is.

But my suspicion is war. I have read a post from a random person online that Germany has less than 1 month of ammunition available. It has been published by reputable news agencies (Newsweek) that Western European nations are rapidly preparing for war, and now that Trump is president-elect, who has discussed in the past pulling out of NATO and force NATO nations to pull more of their own weight, they may be devoting more resources to just that.

When I was digging around to find out what division of MAXAM "went out of business", I discovered that Rheinemetall, a German arms manufacturer, had bought a division of MAXAM. I could not find out if it was the same division or not. But it would make sense to see Germany buying up companies that could manufacture primers and other ammunition components.

 

[maillemaker]

To purchase 3000 rounds of percussion black powder ammunition, assuming a 50 grain charge and 500 grain bullet, would cost:

3000 primers @ $.19 each = $570
50 grains powder * 3000 = 150,000 grains = 21 pounds @ $30 per pound = $630
3000 bullets @ 500 grains per bullet = 214 pounds lead @ $1.20 per pound = $256.80

Total: $1,456.80

 

[flconch53]

To purchase 3000 rounds of percussion black powder ammunition, assuming a 50 grain charge and 500 grain bullet, would cost:

3000 primers @ $.19 each = $570
50 grains powder * 3000 = 150,000 grains = 21 pounds @ $30 per pound = $630
3000 bullets @ 500 grains per bullet = 214 pounds lead @ $1.20 per pound = $256.80

Total: $1,456.80

The only thing I take issue with is the 500 grains per bullet. Many of us shoot RB so the lead usage would be less. But all in all it isn't cheap shooting anymore. The up side in a day of shooting you use alot fewer rounds than a day of shooting suppository guns

 

[Mad L]

To some folks, your numbers would make sense and to others it would be considering hoarding. Depends on what you want personally.

It all depends on what you personal inventory level is.

My mentor said if you shoot 1 buy 2,if you shoot 2 buy 4, etc.

However, that can only work in times of plenty, when shelves are stocked.
That method these last five years would leave you on the bench look for someone who prepares ahead.

 

[FishDFly]

Have to be prepared.

When I use to go to the Winter Nationals, I would stop at Coonie's on the way home and get a case. When I would go to shoots I would buy a 1,000 caps, even if I did not need them.

Folks at the Sept shoot at Friendship bought up all the Goex powder, they were preparing.

If, you are not preparing, whose fault is it?

 

[MSmith]

I bought all 20K they had just to show others how smart I am.

Yep, you're why they are out of stock now.

BTW: I checked all the places that people have mentioned here and they are all out of stock today. I find that to be typical when information is broadcast in mass. I'm thinking the sayings, "keep your powder dry" & "watch your top knot" might have a slightly different meaning than many have come to believe was customary.

 

[maillemaker]

The only thing I take issue with is the 500 grains per bullet. Many of us shoot RB so the lead usage would be less. But all in all it isn't cheap shooting anymore. The up side in a day of shooting you use alot fewer rounds than a day of shooting suppository guns

I thought about this when I posted the data. I shoot military muskets, and a traditional "minie ball" is 500+ grains. But actual bullet weights range from round ball to 560 grains, depending on the gun and ammo being used.

I didn't worry about it because the lead is a minor cost consideration at the price point I am able to buy lead at.

Even if you ignore lead altogether, the cost is still $1200.

Of course many people have to buy lead from Rotometals, so the cost of lead would be double what I listed.

The upshot is, it's quite expensive to buy the materials for 3000 black powder shots.

 

[flconch53]

Yep, you're why they are out of stock now.

BTW: I checked all the places that people have mentioned here and they are all out of stock today. I find that to be typical when information is broadcast in mass. I'm thinking the sayings, "keep your powder dry" & "watch your top knot" might have a slightly different meaning than many have come to believe was customary.

I have all I need just trying to help out my fellow site members. I shoot mostly flintlock so 3000 caps will last me awhile

 

[SDSmlf]

I checked all the places that people have mentioned here and they are all out of stock today.

Sign up for an email or text notification when the item(s) you are looking for are in stock at various suppliers and then make the decision to purchase or not quickly when you are notified. Doesn’t mean the delivery date or the price will be to your liking, but those are different concerns.

Today is not too early to get started on items needed for next year or even the following year. Waiting until you are on the way to the range or hunting camp to pick up few essential items along the way like caps or powder isn’t a good plan.

 

[Matt-J2]

Waiting until you are on the way to the range or hunting camp to pick up few essential items along the way like caps or powder isn’t a good plan.

When I was at the Scheels yesterday, I had to wait to get to the caps because there was a large crowd of people getting their very first muzzleloaders(inlines of course) for our muzzleloader deer season. Which started on the 2nd (ie, 2 days ago) and ends the 11th.

So it's totally possible to be even farther behind!