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I believe ya Shawnee...there is iron in your words. But having to rub shoulders with Grizz where I hunt, I'm sticking with 110 grains in my .62". What some don't realize about diminishing returns, is that it's not a line in the sand, the "point" of diminishing returns is not a brick wall...it's, just...wait for it... "diminishing'...there are still "returns". The cost of the returns just become greater, and the returns become less.
 
Bradly, Care to share your loadingsequence ? Both Patched?

Gladly Smo
I don't load second prb until it becomes necessary. Like I said I'm a squirrel hunter and only take larger game when it presents itself, which happens quite a bit here in East Texas. Hogs everywhere, sometimes I think there's more hogs than cat squirrels
 
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Thanks Bradly,

I’ve done some testing with two balls in my .54 , two .530’s over 99 grns of fffg Goex.

I did not patch the second ball, I dropped it on top of the first one bare.

Then rammed / packed a pinch of wasp nest down on top to hold in place.

Accuracy was less than stellar ....

I do remember a few years back Roundball did some testing with the double ball load in a T/C.... his results were favorable.

I don’t recall his loading sequence however...
 
Hanshi
Why would I want a bigger gun to hunt squirrels? I mean what's the point? I kill everything I need with what I have. Besides I like the idea of makin do with what you got. But that's just me, your mileage may vary . Good huntin...
 
Hey smo
I hunt .310 prb over 30gr for squirrels and I've tried a chewed ball no patch and results were just ok. Varied my load up and down with not much change in accuracy But two patched balls over 30gr is the ticket in my part of the woods. I don't shoot beyond 40 yards in this East Texas thicket.
 
Only fellow I know who shoots 2 R.B. is when he competes in local club ''PLANK SHOOTS''. To me,its kind of cheating!! but its HIS business,not mine. F.W.I.W.,old Mr.LAPP only wins once in a while..
Couple good videos on U-TUBE showing what it takes to actually DESTROY .50 cal. muzzleloader....
me,i'll stick to 1 ball 60gr.3f prb for plinking and 80 gr.3f with 255gr. rnfp 45 slug in a TC yellow sabot for game. .50 cal cap lock.
naturally,the plinking load is just fun,,,the ''hunting load'' feels like my old ITHACA double shotgun with heavy field load...... not very scientific but it tells me that recoil= pressure increase.
think i'll live a while longer sticking to a single projectile with my above loads.
but then,what do I know, heck,i watch U-TUBE.
 
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Thanks again Bradly, I’ve got a .32 & .36 they both like 30 grn fffg Goex.

The way I look at shooting two balls is...

If the combined weight of both projectiles is less than(<) the weight of a bullet load suggested by the Manufacture , then it should be Safe.

Providing there is no air space/ gap to constitute a blockage, then “I” can see no difference .

Kinda’ like shooting 2oz of Brass covered BB’s over 100 grn ffg Goex in my 16 gauge smoothbore .....Hang on and enjoy the ride!
 
Hanshi
Why would I want a bigger gun to hunt squirrels? I mean what's the point? I kill everything I need with what I have. Besides I like the idea of makin do with what you got. But that's just me, your mileage may vary . Good huntin...
I can't really see the utility of shooting 2 balls at once. If you can't hit anything with one, loading a second won't help...and you are depending more on luck (which doesn't exist) than skill. I'll stick with a single ball or a load of shot....
 
Hand, The reason is to open another hole so twice the amount of blood loss.(Theoretically)

I remember a Hunting Buddy of mine back in the mid 70's shot a double ball load that I'm 95% certain he got it from the T/C Manual.

His would group 2' apart at 50 yards, But I dont remember exactly what his load was, and so far I've been unable to duplicate it.
 
Hand, The reason is to open another hole so twice the amount of blood loss.(Theoretically)

I remember a Hunting Buddy of mine back in the mid 70's shot a double ball load that I'm 95% certain he got it from the T/C Manual.

His would group 2' apart at 50 yards, But I don't remember exactly what his load was, and so far I've been unable to duplicate it.
Considering one can bleed-out in 3 minutes from injury to a major vessel, whether the blood leaks from 1 or 2 holes (or pools internally and doesn't leak out at all) isn't that significant. Shot placement is far more critical - Dead is dead. An animal with 2 poorly-placed holes can still run quite a distance (and get away, to potentially die a lingering, painful death), while 1 well-placed hole will drop it in it's tracks. As I see it, this is a form of magical or wishful thinking, or dare I say it, laziness...
 
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Hey Hand, I think you are missing my point. If you will be good enough and go back and read my original post (#56). Im a squirrel hunter and I use a 32 cal only, so there are times I need two holes for larger game. Its really not that hard to understand that it works for me, here in the big thickets of East Taxas. I have a freezer full of hogs and deer, and that my friend is how they did it back in the day around here... Your mileage may very, Best Regards and Good Hunting.
 
Hey Hand, I think you are missing my point. If you will be good enough and go back and read my original post (#56). Im a squirrel hunter and I use a 32 cal only, so there are times I need two holes for larger game. Its really not that hard to understand that it works for me, here in the big thickets of East Taxas. I have a freezer full of hogs and deer, and that my friend is how they did it back in the day around here... Your mileage may very, Best Regards and Good Hunting.
Glad it works for you. I won't be doing the same. No reason a single 32 caliber ball, well-placed, can't do the job. By loading 2 balls on a single powder charge, you are affecting accuracy and down-range power, reducing both...
 
Hand,
Good. Never insinuated you should... I would never recommend following my loads.
You Said-
If you can't hit anything with one, loading a second won't help... I personally would not shoot a load that's not accurate! I pride myself on being the best squirrel shot I can be. And If I decide to double ball for larger game, you can rest assure that it will be accurate. I wouldn't dought that all your loads are just the same... ACCURATE... Best Regards and Good Huntin.
 
No need to get your panties in a wad Hand.

Too each his own.

It only makes sense to me , as you said “one well placed hole will drop it in its tracks”.

Then two well placed balls would be twice as good,
No one was talking about shoot two balls in “hope” of hitting the intended target. We were speaking of tested loads!

I don’t know how many deer you’ve killed , but I’ve taken several.
Some dropped DRT, others I’ve never recovered, even with a well place shot.

A lot depends on the terrain , our hunting in the South East contains heavy thickets that Whitetails love.

When they all all worked up chasing Does , adrenaline flowing they don’t usually just fall over. Even with a well placed shot.

At least not from what I’ve witnessed over the last 40+ years of hunting them.

Again In “My” way of thinking, two holes ,two drops of blood, one hole ,one drop, at night on your hands and knees it does make a BIG difference.

Not all of our hunting seasons fall in the cooler months.

I love shooting Roundballs , but in reality they are propbaly not the best choice for hunting projectiles.

They will kill, but your accuracy is limited.

Each persons is different.

As too the lazy part, lol
I bet as hard as I try I can’t load two faster than you can one.....

If I hunted in the Western States, I would probably never shoot two balls for deer, I would be pushing the limits on powder charge trying too string out a few extra yards.... like many do.

DRT at 300 yards with a muzzleloader !
It can be done.... but not by many.

Too me shooting two balls up close , accurately at a deer,
Again would be better than hoping you get lucky on one at 300.

Too each his own...
 
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