I agree; lots of guns with that type of break. I just threw that out as a possibility. Looks like an interesting piece in that pic. I hope it got repaired well.
Shooting way low!
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it's a Mortimer. first break was by the usps using it for a ramp to drive on.
the fresh break a half inch in front of the old break was me dropping it one day while shooting. it is fixed but lost the checkering.
have a new stock 3/4 done for it out of curly maple.
the fresh break a half inch in front of the old break was me dropping it one day while shooting. it is fixed but lost the checkering.
have a new stock 3/4 done for it out of curly maple.
woodsnwater
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Short and sweet: I bent the barrel up and to the right, now my rear sight is down on the barrel and I'm dead on at 25 yards. Thanks for all your help.
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Rock on! many paths to where one wants to be!
See! I told ya
Sun City
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All I can say is LAWDY LAWDY LAWDY!!
That's a morphodyke set up if I've ever seen one!!!
That's a morphodyke set up if I've ever seen one!!!
woodsnwater
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No doubt.
doubleset
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Does anyone want to think about what this approach may result in regarding accuracy and group size at other distances?
FYI, this is a post I made on our club page this morning.
On inspecting barrels
Apparently, there is little knowledge of what you are looking at, when you look through the bore of a firearm.
I learned how to inspect a barrel at the Bauska Rifle Barrel, Co., from Les Bauska.
He told me the way to train your eye, is to first look through a shotgun barrel. You will see concentric circles the length of the barrel.
These are light bars, and there are somewhere around 100,000 per inch.
On any good barrel, you will see these are all concentric for the length of the barrel.
On a crooked barrel, you can see the light bars are oblong in the bad part of the barrel. They will show you which direction
a barrel needs bent to correct things.
This holds true on a rifle barrel, although it is a bit more difficult to read for some. Some never can be trained to see it. The bore of the barrel is a polished smooth cylinder, just like the smoothbores. The rifling is added after the bore is done.
You can train yourself to see the light bars, even with the rifling. Rough rifling is inconsequential, as long it is not cutting patches. Shoot it smooth, or lap it.
I've been the barrel inspector for three gun companies. I was able to teach some, but they were not common.
So, that gives you an idea of how to see if a barrel is straight. If you can't see and understand what you are seeing, you are
swinging blindfolded if you need to bend the barrel.
On inspecting barrels
Apparently, there is little knowledge of what you are looking at, when you look through the bore of a firearm.
I learned how to inspect a barrel at the Bauska Rifle Barrel, Co., from Les Bauska.
He told me the way to train your eye, is to first look through a shotgun barrel. You will see concentric circles the length of the barrel.
These are light bars, and there are somewhere around 100,000 per inch.
On any good barrel, you will see these are all concentric for the length of the barrel.
On a crooked barrel, you can see the light bars are oblong in the bad part of the barrel. They will show you which direction
a barrel needs bent to correct things.
This holds true on a rifle barrel, although it is a bit more difficult to read for some. Some never can be trained to see it. The bore of the barrel is a polished smooth cylinder, just like the smoothbores. The rifling is added after the bore is done.
You can train yourself to see the light bars, even with the rifling. Rough rifling is inconsequential, as long it is not cutting patches. Shoot it smooth, or lap it.
I've been the barrel inspector for three gun companies. I was able to teach some, but they were not common.
So, that gives you an idea of how to see if a barrel is straight. If you can't see and understand what you are seeing, you are
swinging blindfolded if you need to bend the barrel.
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Super. Glad its fixed.
Sometimes you gotta resort to drastic action to correct a problem.
For years i tried to cure my toenail fungus with no luck. Finally bought a new pair of rubber boots, poured a pint of 3 percent peroxide in each boot and wore them every day for about one hour, changing the peroxide often. After two months the fungus was gone.
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Dang Okie, did your toes fall off or what?
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No. But the fungus went away.
Well good for you, but that comment is just NOT applicable here ... as if one goes to bend an otherwise 'straight' barrel that needs to be bent in order to move the point of impact, it CAN be done in a controlled and measured manner. It may not be done visually, as you suggest, but it can be done quite successfully!
NOTE we are doing the opposite of what you were doing at the barrel companies. The OP had a known measurement, impacting 18" low. I provided him with detailed info to make their own bending jig, from which repeatable measurements 'before and after' could be taken. Then, yes ... they'd need to re-stock the arm and fire again to see what change it had on paper. These measurements, while 'real' numbers, may only be 'relative' to each other ... but the point of impact can be correctly and successfully adjusted.
Tight groups!
I’m glad you got the problem resolved..
Shooting 18” low is a lot.. at 25 yards..
Shooting 18” low is a lot.. at 25 yards..
Installed properly or reversed; in my 25 years of shooting at different BP venues, I have never seen a sight like that. Seems incredibly tall for a rear sight. Glad you got the problem corrected though.
SNoopy22
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25 grains??? Will it even penetrate a coffee can I shoot 70 grains bp
Boy!!! I am glad you posted a comment in this discussion! I missed this entire thread recovering from long term Covid for eight months back then. I have a similar problem with a custom rifle, except mine is only about 12-14" low at 50 yards. Groups good though. Will start a new thread when I get back to my stash and am ready to bend the barrel. Thanks again for your comment!
25 grains is plenty for a squirrel.
SNoopy22
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Hey don't mention it you bend bend and bend away
Seven pages on how to adjust point of impact simply MUST be enough to answer the OP's problem
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