steel furniture for a TC?

[Grantman]

I have a 30 year old TC Hawken that has been through the brambles and bullrushes. I'll be refininishing the stock with oil and I'm going to send the barrel off to MCGowan for a high polish blue. (Not Pc, but I love a satin finished oil stock and perfectly blued barrels.) Anyone know where I can get steel furniture to replace the brass?

 

[remy11s]

Check out The Hawken Shop. Just type it into your search engine. They sell kits that will need a little finishing to fit properly.
Remy

 

[snagg]

Grantman,

The Hawken Shoppe will have much of what you need. Check them out for sure. It is the only place I could find the iron patch box I wanted. Plus they have some of the other items. It does come as a kit or can be bought individually.
Last year when I bought the iron hardware for my Hawkens, they didn't have everything I needed. Check out Cains and TOTW for the rest of the iron hardware reqiured to complete your gun.
When you look at Cains and TOTW you're going to want T/C Renegade parts for the gun.
Take a look at the Photo's section. A few posts down you'll see a posting for the T/C Hawkens brass to iron post. The pics didn't come out the best, but you might get an idea of what your's will look like.
If I can help anymore, just holler.

snagg

 

[mloader40]

If you throughly clean and degrease the brass parts they can be blackened with a commercial liquid gun blue.
BPWRL

 

[Grantman]

The liquid gun blue on the existing parts would certainly be easier. I'm wondering how it will hold up, particularly on brass? About 40 years ago, I used some cold blue on a Winchester 71 in .348!(DUMB) The cold blue had a mottled appearance and did not wear well, and I destroyed a collector's piece. What is the best product today, if I go the cold blue route?

 

[zukeeper1]

OK , now I'm getting interested in this ..........never heard of bluing brass.

 

[Grantman]

I did some research this afternoon. Obviously, we can't blue a non-ferous metal like brass since blueing is just controlled rust. Maybe,Birchwood Casey Brassblack top coated with clear laquer? Another possibility might be "Black Ice" teflon coating. The black ice treatment looks much like a low luster black/blue and is tougher than nails.

 

[BrownBear]

I've used the B/C Brassblack on brass sights (hate em!), and I wasn't too pleased with the results. Even on that small a surface it came out pretty mottly, and way too thin in places. I'm curious if with the right solvent (water, even?) you couldn't thin the product enough to make a larger volume of "wash" and soak the parts longer. Food for thought.

In any case, I have to retreat the sights pretty often because it wears off so easy on the sharp edges. I suspect that if you were using it on larger parts, especially the butt plate, it would be showing brass real quick unless you covered it with something hard. Maybe even a spray-on epoxy gee whillicker kinda hard finish that you could subsequently dull with steelwool. Sorry to say that kinda thinking may be in order here. Not for T/C, I'm looking for more ideas, but may ultimately have to sort out the steel question.

Let's hear more bout using bluing solution to blacken brass!!!! Never heard of it, but I'm real interested.

 

[jeepwj992002]

I am refinishing a T/C Hawken and I just finished blackening all of the brass. I used Birchwood Casey Perma Blue. Some parts like the nosecap I dipped into an old medicine bottle full of the stuff. Works real well. The other parts I dipped a patch into the blue and then laid the patch flat on the parts and slowly moved the patch around until the rest of the part was blackened. In the right light the parts have a bare steel look to them.

 

[BrownBear]

Jimminy! Never heard of it, but I'm sure sold on the looks. How tough is it when it comes to scratching?

 

[bob1961]

What is the best product today, if I go the cold blue route?

OK , now I'm getting interested in this ..........never heard of bluing brass.

i used birchwood caseys perma-blue on my T/C's brass, just apply it with a Q-tip after degreasing the parts let sit fer bout a minute then wipe with a paper towel....do that how ever many times ya want to get what ya want....i did mine with 2 coats to get a browned brass with a molted pattern to it....that was bout 2004 i did that and the butt plate still looks good but with some age to it now....some of the smaller parts could use another treatment now, but there not shiny brass just a real dull brass....i'll dig it out to get some pictures :v ................bob

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[jeepwj992002]

I'm not sure about the wear on the finish yet. I did the same to my 1861 navy brass frame. It still looks good after a few months.

 

[Grantman]

Modelers have a product similar to the bC stuff. Those guys use a diluted muriatric acid bath to clean their brass before processing in a non-metalic container. They also handle the brass with surgical gloves to keep it completely oil free. Google blackening brass. Lots of info out there.

 

[Grantman]

I got my TC Hawken brass back from Black Ice today. I really like the look. The parts are BLACK with somewhat of a satin finish. The finish seems to be really tough. I tried to scratch the inside of the buttplate with a finishing nail. I could mark it, but it is certainly touger than any rust blue I've worked with.

 

[navaho]

The easiest way I have found is to contact T/C and purchase steel parts that are already finished. Purchase Renegade parts.

 

[Grantman]

Is there a steel Renegade patchbox available?

 

[navaho]

No, but you can get one through TOW (some modification required). You can rust blue it. Easy enought and it looks great.

 

[Robert58]

You can get a kit for all of the steel furniture you need from http://www.thehawkenshop.com/

Plus you can get a patchbox from them

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