Stuck Jag....

[Steve Martin]

Mistake number 1, using a WOOD ramrod to clean with...everyone else has already addressed the possible fix but always using a well made steel range rod like TOW or Log Cabin sell for cleaning (and everything else really) will prevent a repeat performance of a broken cleaning rod. WOOD ramrods are best left in the thimbles for looks only! IMHO.

 

[LME]

I never use a brush on a muzzle loader as they tend to get stuck.

Smart man!

 

[Rich44]

Simplicity......

Remove the nipple. Pour 5 grains of powder through where the nipple screws in. Replace nipple. Put a cap on the nipple. Point in a safe direction. Cock the hammer. Pull the trigger. Done

Maybe you should reread, this idea does work.

 

[Patched]

You're right... who knew a jag with a clean patch would get stuck

After some many years of muzzleloading one learns to move that wet cleaning patch down the barrel in short in and out strokes. Once that patch is in the powder burning area of the barrel, we all run the risk of getting it stuck there…a WET patch for swabbing outa fouled barrel. You can always dry it out…Ive had the OP’s delema twice….some powder under the nipple and shoot it out…the grease gun works but what a mess.

 

[BP Addict]

Why, why do folks have to use brushes?

Must be hundreds of posts, how do I get the brush out?

The brush isn't stuck, the patch and jag are!

Walt

 

[BP Addict]

I never use a brush on a muzzle loader as they tend to get stuck.

I've been shooting muzzies for over 30 years and have never had a brush get stuck. Jag and patch, yes. Brush no!

Walt

 

[BP Addict]

Many years ago, I would clean my wife’s CVA Frontier Rifle after the Shooting Match, and the patch and jag would get stuck every time. The patches were 2” and the jag was tapered. As a result, the patch would ball up in the tapered portion of the jag and wedge it in the barrel. A 1.5” patch might have fixed the problem, but I switched to a button jag instead.

I use a steel bench rod with a brass Muzzle Protector. The one that comes with the gun is okay in the field, but I don’t trust it at the Range. Mine is the Creedmoor Rod from Track of the Wolf. My local shop sells one from Treso with a T-Handle. The handle on the one from Track is pressed on and could come off. The Treso one is pinned. I also use a 10/32 rod with an 8/32 adapter. I’ve actually had jag screws break in my Bench rod. By using the adapter and 8/32 cleaning accessories, all I have to do is replace the adapter.

To keep the problem from happening again, I would switch to either a smaller Cleaning Patch and/or a Button Jag. Secondly, I’d order a steel Bench/Cleaning rod. Lastly, never put a dry patch down your barrel if it’s dirty!

The last time I had this problem, (stuck ball actually) I sprayed PB Blaster down the barrel, and in the touch hole after the liner was removed (mine was a flintlock). I let it set for a while and tried it again. I added more spray and it set for a few days. I was finally able to pull it out. I cleaned it well, put some protectant in the barrel, and she was none worse for the wear!

Photos attached:

• Tapered Jag
• Creedmoor rod with Button Jag Our Strongest Loading & Cleaning Rod, 5/16" stainless, over 29" long for T/C Hawken, rigid handle, 10-32 thread - Track of the Wolf
• Treso Rod Shooting Aids - The Gun Works Muzzleloading Emporium -

Good luck!

Walt

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Hoppes No 9 belongs no where near black powder. You caused you own problem.
Compressed air fixes everything in a barrel.
Be advised it breaks not only flower pots, but dents tool boxes also.
My neighbor broke his off inside.

 

[bassncrap]

Hoppes No 9 belongs no where near black powder. You caused you own problem.
Compressed air fixes everything in a barrel.
Be advised it breaks not only flower pots, but dents tool boxes also.
My neighbor broke his off inside.

Noted*

 

[SwanShot]

I had a cleaning jag stuck the other day and all I did was pour some lube down barrel, wait a little, then clamped visegrip on rod and took little taps with hammer on grips and it came right out.

That's the way I do it.

 

[TDM]

@bassncrap, wish you had clamped the tip in the vise horizontally, then twisted and pulled.

 

[bassncrap]

@bassncrap, wish you had clamped the tip in the vise horizontally, then twisted and pulled.

Believe me I tried. It just turned and turned. Big lesson learned.

 

[TDM]

Believe me I tried. It just turned and turned. Big lesson learned.

Well at least you tried it, usually works. You’ve got one stuck jag for sure.

 

[bassncrap]

Well at least you tried it, usually works. You’ve got one stuck jag for sure.

Yup. And Im not even mad about it lol. Its part of the learning process that could have been avoided.

Now to focus on my Hawkens.

 

[TDM]

@bassncrap since the jag and patch is fairly close to the end of the barrel, if I’m not mistaken, you might consider trying to burn the patch up with a propane torch. That should free the jag.

 

[bassncrap]

@bassncrap since the jag and patch is fairly close to the end of the barrel, if I’m not mistaken, you might consider trying to burn the patch up with a propane torch. That should free the jag.

Heck not a terrible idea..... will definitely try it.

 

[COTNTOP]

Every one that I had stick was at the very bottom for some reason.

 

[Mike in FL]

When I used to shoot perch. guns I shot stuck jags out with a fresh cap.

 

[Idaho Ron]

After some many years of muzzleloading one learns to move that wet cleaning patch down the barrel in short in and out strokes. Once that patch is in the powder burning area of the barrel, we all run the risk of getting it stuck there…a WET patch for swabbing outa fouled barrel. You can always dry it out…Ive had the OP’s delema twice….some powder under the nipple and shoot it out…the grease gun works but what a mess.

So you have personally used the grease gun and delt with the unbelievable mess?

 

[nhmoose]

What unbelievable mess? Yes I have used the grease gun multiple times. After it is pumped out a steel rod with a jag and patch Pushees the grease back out.

What makes you think it is an unbelievable mess?