Yes, trolling. Obviously, this topic has been :dead:
The weapon in the photos I posted are of the rifle that exploded this weekend at the NSSA event. (Which was gov't proofed, by the way, and constructed with all the expertise attributed to historical weapons makers in this thread.)
Basically, I find it humorous how when there is an accident with an original, Italian, or custom American piece that the first response by certain individuals is to blame the shooter. As in this case:
Armisport (Chiappa) Italian Enfield
Or in the case of the Chiappa (Italian) 1842 Musket that exploded a couple of years ago.
Yet when the same things happen with an Indian piece (and there are really only a handful of documented cases), many of the same folks rush to blame the weapon - often in spite of actual evidence to the contrary. That is certainly the case in regards to the article which is the subject of this thread.
The article as it exists presently, is a modified version of the original. The original article contained so many complete inventions of "fact" ( :bull: ) that when challenged about them, the author was forced to essentially admit he had fabricated them by altering his article. Even after the alterations, the author continues to omit important and relevant details on the incidents which demonstrate that they were the result of operator error. He writes, "We do not know all the circumstances surrounding these burst barrels," when, in fact, he has been informed of the circumstances and even provided copies of the forensic evidence!
FULL DISCLOSURE: As some might have guessed from my screen name, I am the owner and operator of Veteran Arms LLC, so this subject is of interest and is followed very closely by me. I lurk on this board, but rarely speak up.
I can tell you unequivocally, that no Veteran Arms weapon has ever suffered a failure either in proofing (now
that is a misunderstood and contentious subject :stir: ) or in actual service...ever...period.
I can also tell you that I see the same individuals, some with competing pecuniary interests in the Italian and custom gun markets, go from forum to forum essentially spreading misinformation like that contained in the cited article because it advances their own interests. That makes it tough for hobbyists to decipher truth from fiction.
One final note, before I get back to lurking. Lumping all "Indian guns" into one group is neither helpful to the consumer nor does it accurately reflect the reality of the market. There are at least a half a dozen manufacturing companies involved. Their products vary in many important ways. The same as any number of similar American products might. When one starts a statement with, "Indian guns..." all that folks informed on the subject hear is :yakyak:
Anyway, that's :2