To pee, or not to pee?

[nchawkeye]

hmmm...
wonder if'n I should be extra vigilant on taking my hormone replacement pills next hunt and take a wizz outside
If the estrogene gets the attention of bucks it just may work.

Surprised no body has brought it up but I do know some boys that attract bucks by using their wives "scent pads" during the season...

 

[Spikebuck]

my theory on cig/pipe smoke is movement alerts them..cause if they can smell yer cig they can smell you..actually thought smoke would help cover yer scent,,especially after I quit..seen way more deer when I was smokin...jus what I observed...

I have a friend who has filled his tags every year since childhood. He is a non-smoker, except during deer season. He smokes cigars on his deer stand. Claims it brings them in. Dunno. :idunno: But, his results cannot be denied.

I also know a guy that smokes on stand (cigarettes) and if you sent 100 people into the woods and only one could get a deer, he'd be the guy that would come back with it and it would probably be a big buck to boot. Never could figure that one out. He would literally crush out the butts and leave them stuck in the tree bark. I sat one of his stands once and saw this first hand...pretty disgusting, actually. But apparently the deer don't mind.

 

[smo]

Anyone taking vitamins or some perscription meds will tell you their urine smells like the meds. So I would say it's not good to pee in the woods. I use the gatorade bottle myself. As for the other :surrender: If I have to do the #2 in the woods I find another place to hunt that day a few hundred yards away from the dump site. :shocked2:

 

[larry wv]

Horney cow pee will attract Buck Deer Squirrel whatever. I used it for 25 years or so. Actually had a Squirrel try to sneak up on my boots with the pee on them while I was in a tree stand. It had a gleam in its eye. :shocked2: But people pee scares Deer around here. Cow in heat pee is the best thing I have ever used. We had a Dairy until a few years ago and all my hunting friends stopped by for a supply. 2 gallons at a time free sure beats the little bottles of questionable stuff. I was at a big wig conservation meeting and asked a friendly gov employee after the meeting and he said the cow pee would work. And it did... First time a gov type person ever told the truth. Larry

 

[mccarthy.tf]

I usually walk over to where the trail splits one leads to my brothers stand the other to mine. I pee on the trail to his stand. :rotf:

 

[George T.]

I have seen times when I would try anything! I swear I have laughed reading these posts until my sides hurt! :rotf: Geo. T.

 

[petew]

After seeing the amount of Bear, Wolf, Coyote, and Cat dung where we hunt I don't think our depostis make any diference at all.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The Urine has no real distinguishing scent from animal to animal.. according to what I've read. While poo certainly does

SO..., if poo has a definite odor of human when it comes from a human...

How about a human fart? A big cloud of gas rolling away on the wind? Should I avoid the cabbage or the beans before going out?

(LIKE FOLKS WEREN'T WONDERING!)

LD

 

[hanshi]

I use to be careful and travel a good distance from my stand to urinate. But time after time I noticed it had no affect on deer one way or another. I was also introduced to "scrape making". There has been some real success by hunters making a fake scrape under an overhanging twig and urinating in it. Deer will visit it and add their own. Now I take no precautions for answering "the call".

 

[Spikebuck]

How about a human fart?

Squeakers and SBD's are of no value, but a deep rumbly one might be mistaken for a big buck grunt and bring the head honcho of the area running in lookin' for a fight!!! :grin:

 

[hoochiepapa]

These are just my personal experiences...
I was hunting with a buddy that brought along his brother-in-law that smoked.
We split up in the black timber, and I took lower trail than they. I bugled once and cow called, and it wasn't long a rag horn came down the higher trail they were on. About that time, I smelled the BIL's cigarette. I had drawn my bow and was taking a bead on the small bull, when he suddenly whirled and ran back up the trail. The cigarette smoke.
I watched a video on bugling bulls and the "phlemen" they perform, which is curling their upper lip after encountering some urine to see if it was from a cow in estrous. The scientist in the video laid out urine from a cow in estrous and then peed in a spot. He did not identify which was which to the viewer, and a bull came in and did the lip-curling at both spots. :idunno:

 

[Roguedog]

So, based on these responses, in order to be the absolute most effective hunter I can be, I should start smoking, pee in the woods a lot, maybe bring along an old maxi pad, and possibly expel large amounts of flatulence! Wow! I didn't know hunting could be so easy. Looks like all these years of scent control and anal redundancy have gotten me no where.

Jeff

 

[Roguedog]

So, based on these responses, in order to be the absolute most effective hunter I can be, I should start smoking, pee in the woods a lot, maybe bring along an old maxi pad, and possibly expel large amounts of flatulence! Wow! I didn't know hunting could be so easy. Looks like all these years of scent control and anal redundancy have gotten me no where.

I guess my grandpa had it figured out after all. I always thought he seemed to kill a lot of deer even though he chain smoked Lucky Strikes.

 

[Huntin_Dawg1215]

Same with me, just answer the call, I have cause myself more trouble moving to another location. Usually I get busted by the deer.

 

[vthunter52]

If I was to hunt all day from the same stand, I might refrain from going in the area. I track the buck and am not in the same area for long. I personally don't think that it matters. Deer during the rut don't pay much attention to anything but the does that are in estrous. Besides when you reach my age, the protrate dictates when you go!

 

[pargent]

Depends on what you are hunting, if I were hunting large predaters I would be holding onto that, I have an old friend that has the scaresto back this up :rotf: Aparently just because you are out hunting does not mean that you yourself can't be hunted :rotf: :rotf:

 

[William O.]

I do, it makes no difference to a deer or hog.

 

[sarcasmn]

I have read the articles and books, discussed these things in camp to no end. From personal experience I have urinated in deer scrapes and watched bucks go nuts. It did not seem to deter them at all. Usually they urinate right over that scrape to remark their territory.

This past season my best hunting buddy made a Sante Fe stew out of leftovers and stuff at the camp. The next morning that stew came back to haunt me. I had to do a fireman slide down the ladder and only got about 25 yards from the stand before stopping at the base of a tree to deal with the emergency. I didnt have time to dig a hole or anything. I did dig a small hole to bury the biodegradable toilet paper I always carry with me but that's all I buried.

I climbed back into my stand to rest for a few minutes after the experience and contemplate where I was going to hunt next because conventional wisdom says I had ruined that area. While I was sitting there a nice big doe walked into the small clearing not 20 yards past where I had left the evidence.

I had already un-nocked my arrow and had set down my bow. The doe initially was facing me and kept looking at me in the stand to try and figure out what I was. She would drop her head and then lift up fast to see if I moved. I sat still and just kinda watched her out of the side of my eyes. She then turned broadside and started to eat some plants on the ground. I was able to very slowly pick up my bow, nock and arrow and turn say 45 degrees toward the doe and take the shot. This took some time. The doe dropped less than five yards from where she was hit.

Afterwards I used a laser range finder to check the distances and I was 26 yards from the spot I had used as an outhouse and the arrow that passed through the deer was 18 yards past that in almost a straight line. There was a very slight breeze blowing south by southeast that day and I was almost due west of the doe when I took the shot.

My experience is that playing the wind and sitting very still are the two most important things to worry about when hunting. I know the doe saw something in the tree and I can't believe she did not smell what was under the tree yet she did not run away.

 

[Jaeger]

My question is: Does anything you do or wear (with the exception of after shave or cig smoke)matter if you are hunting from a fixed position or blind and are facing INTO the wind waiting for deer to appear? My theory is that you will not see deer appear anywhere from a downwind direction, because they WILL pick up your scent. But you might see deer from upwind of you, or laterally from your position. If you imagine yourself with a thin wisp of smoke (your scent vapor) emanating from your body and being carried by the air, then that explains it all. It has taken me a number of years to reach this conclusion: You should ALWAYS hunt with air movement and direction in mind. So, taking a leak should not matter Any agreement on this?

 

[Blackbruin]

I have urinated, while 2 doe were bedded 10 yards away while I was up in a pine tree, couldn't hold it anymore. Their ears perked up and they never moved until 4pm, 2 hrs later.