Can anyone provide me with feedback on rifle "kits" from Track of the Wolf? I met a fellow at a woods walk last weekend who had a Track kit gun, and i was very impressed with the quality of the wood. His work on the gun was excellent as well. I'd like to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly. Thanks!
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Mccoy,
I just finished building the Issac Haines "kit",(50 cal B weight barrel) from track of the wolf... I am very pleased with all parts of the kit :applause:. It turned out to be a beautiful gun... I got to site it in last weekend.. and it shoots like a dream ::..
If youd like to take a look here is some pics of it
http://photobucket.com/albums/v345/TrinaF/
I just finished building the Issac Haines "kit",(50 cal B weight barrel) from track of the wolf... I am very pleased with all parts of the kit :applause:. It turned out to be a beautiful gun... I got to site it in last weekend.. and it shoots like a dream ::..
If youd like to take a look here is some pics of it
http://photobucket.com/albums/v345/TrinaF/
McCoy,
I built a TOW "Fusil de Chasse" smmoth bore, flintlock,
C. maple, AQ stain, bees wax finish, brass furniture,
16 ga. / .662 cal.
Shoots great! Easy to care for!
Just finished coning the muzzle with a tool by Joe Wood.
Well pleased with Track of the Wolf's products and services.
Jim Trahan
I built a TOW "Fusil de Chasse" smmoth bore, flintlock,
C. maple, AQ stain, bees wax finish, brass furniture,
16 ga. / .662 cal.
Shoots great! Easy to care for!
Just finished coning the muzzle with a tool by Joe Wood.
Well pleased with Track of the Wolf's products and services.
Jim Trahan
MikeChapin
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I have built two Southern Mountain rifles from TOTW parts. The only deviation from the kit was that I did not get the pre-inlet stock since I wanted to put an L&R Ashmore lock rather than the Siler that the pre-inlet stock is cut for. One was plain maple and the other fancy maple. Both grades were what I expected.
I have just got the parts for a full stock Hawken from them also. This time I did get the pre-inlet stock because I got a price break on it because it was a second. It was pretty much what I expected. It is not pre-inlet in the sense that a GPR or the old CVA kits were. There is still a lot of wood to remove to fit the parts which is good. It looks like it will be a time saver though, because the initial cuts are lined up for you.
Since you quoted when you mentioned "kits" you already know that they are more a collection of parts than what would traditionally be called a kit. I have been getting parts from them for about 20 years and have never had any problems.
--Mike
I have just got the parts for a full stock Hawken from them also. This time I did get the pre-inlet stock because I got a price break on it because it was a second. It was pretty much what I expected. It is not pre-inlet in the sense that a GPR or the old CVA kits were. There is still a lot of wood to remove to fit the parts which is good. It looks like it will be a time saver though, because the initial cuts are lined up for you.
Since you quoted when you mentioned "kits" you already know that they are more a collection of parts than what would traditionally be called a kit. I have been getting parts from them for about 20 years and have never had any problems.
--Mike
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Mccoy
Where did you go on your woods walk? I was at the one held in Columbia, Pa last weekend.
Where did you go on your woods walk? I was at the one held in Columbia, Pa last weekend.
I've used their parts for a couple of guns and found them to be of good quality, one thing to consider is how "authentic" you want to be, as they do stretch things quite a bit in what they offer as options for different types of guns from a historical perspective.
I've used their parts for about 10 years and usually get pretty good quality. They do offer parts that can make a pretty "not so period correct" gun. They do this because some people just want to make a gun with a collection of parts they like, and P/C be damned. However, if you want historical accuracy they do have some knowledgeable staff that will help you on the phone or by e-mail. ask for David or Eric especially. They just raised all their prices recently but I guess everybody else is too. Check their website for some deals on discontinued or slightly flawed items, especially stocks.
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I am currently working on a T.O.W. northwest trade gun.
This is my first "kit".
As someone else mentioned, it is not really a kit in the sense of some others I have assembled.
It has been enjoyable and a learning experience. It will give you a taste of what it was like to build a rifle from scratch. I have much more respect now for rifle builders.
Good luck.
This is my first "kit".
As someone else mentioned, it is not really a kit in the sense of some others I have assembled.
It has been enjoyable and a learning experience. It will give you a taste of what it was like to build a rifle from scratch. I have much more respect now for rifle builders.
Good luck.
Same here , I built a Fusil de Chasse de Tulle
I did have to correct a few cosmetic details on
the lock ( only Rifle Shoppe makes a PC french lock )
and the maple stock was a little bit warped
( easyly corrected ) .
By the way , English and European guns should
have a walnut stock , not maple .( a mistake
I should not do again )
Do I see a descendant of Guillaume Trahan
who came to America in 1636 , on this list ?
http://www.trahan.org/
I did have to correct a few cosmetic details on
the lock ( only Rifle Shoppe makes a PC french lock )
and the maple stock was a little bit warped
( easyly corrected ) .
By the way , English and European guns should
have a walnut stock , not maple .( a mistake
I should not do again )
Do I see a descendant of Guillaume Trahan
who came to America in 1636 , on this list ?
http://www.trahan.org/
Mosby, I'm the guy that won at Columbia last weekend.
Mike 2005, yes, i've built kits, and "kits". I started at age 14 with a Thompson Center kit, and my latest was a Brad Emig Virginia longrifle "kit".
To all, Thanks for the feedback.
Mike 2005, yes, i've built kits, and "kits". I started at age 14 with a Thompson Center kit, and my latest was a Brad Emig Virginia longrifle "kit".
To all, Thanks for the feedback.
I have never been real pleased with TOW in the years I have dealt with them. If I am desperate I use them & if not & go elsewhere. Too many backorders for me, when I buy parts I want them shipped, not wait 3-4 mo. on a barrel or a lock.
I suggest you order them from Jim Chambers, MBS, Dunlaps Woodcrafts, or Tip Curtis Frontier Shop. I have had better service from all 4 of these.
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I suggest you order them from Jim Chambers, MBS, Dunlaps Woodcrafts, or Tip Curtis Frontier Shop. I have had better service from all 4 of these.
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"However, if you want historical accuracy they do have some knowledgeable staff that will help you on the phone or by e-mail. ask for David or Eric especially."
I think you will do well to do your own research or query some forums where knowledgeble gun buffs frequent for accurate info on the "PC" factor, read some of the writeups that go with many of the consignment guns and you will find a lot of "stretching" of things from a historical perpective. One rule of thumb that I recommend is to not use a supplier as a source of what is or is not PC, unbiased sources are a better way to go, there are some exceptions of course but if you know who they are then you do not have to ask the questions.
I think you will do well to do your own research or query some forums where knowledgeble gun buffs frequent for accurate info on the "PC" factor, read some of the writeups that go with many of the consignment guns and you will find a lot of "stretching" of things from a historical perpective. One rule of thumb that I recommend is to not use a supplier as a source of what is or is not PC, unbiased sources are a better way to go, there are some exceptions of course but if you know who they are then you do not have to ask the questions.
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"I think you will do well to do your own research or query "
This is sound advice. I find no problem using a supplier for historical accuracy as long as I am in the frame of mind that I will use this info to make my descision based on several different sources (and my experience). I served 4 years during Viet Nam. I'm not a Viet Nam Veteran. You can get into numerous arguements about period/historical accuracy in this venue alone (normally from a non-vet that thinks he knows where to put you in HIS period accurate scheme). I seem to recall a conversation between a couple of fellas. One (Binky) was expounding about some particular thing and arguing about its' accuracy (this was a fairly short conversation). Binky swore that his way was the correct one. The other side of the conversation (Tom, now deceased)made one short comment (after listing to the mouth's raving) "Thats not right, it didn't happen like that ". Binky asked " and just how do you know ? " Tom replied, " I was in Viet Nam". Binky had read Time Life Books.
I have sources for historical accuracy that are marvelous human beings. They are gunsmiths, blacksmiths and mountain men to mention a few and even they are not always accurate but they will admit that and tell you they might be wrong. Cyberspace is a marvelous place. It will do you good to meet real folks in your life and nurture their friendships. Much information is available on the net but if you are really lucky, you will find a fossil in the flesh that has information you want (and he/she might be in a nursing home). God Bless the Combat Veteran.
This is sound advice. I find no problem using a supplier for historical accuracy as long as I am in the frame of mind that I will use this info to make my descision based on several different sources (and my experience). I served 4 years during Viet Nam. I'm not a Viet Nam Veteran. You can get into numerous arguements about period/historical accuracy in this venue alone (normally from a non-vet that thinks he knows where to put you in HIS period accurate scheme). I seem to recall a conversation between a couple of fellas. One (Binky) was expounding about some particular thing and arguing about its' accuracy (this was a fairly short conversation). Binky swore that his way was the correct one. The other side of the conversation (Tom, now deceased)made one short comment (after listing to the mouth's raving) "Thats not right, it didn't happen like that ". Binky asked " and just how do you know ? " Tom replied, " I was in Viet Nam". Binky had read Time Life Books.
I have sources for historical accuracy that are marvelous human beings. They are gunsmiths, blacksmiths and mountain men to mention a few and even they are not always accurate but they will admit that and tell you they might be wrong. Cyberspace is a marvelous place. It will do you good to meet real folks in your life and nurture their friendships. Much information is available on the net but if you are really lucky, you will find a fossil in the flesh that has information you want (and he/she might be in a nursing home). God Bless the Combat Veteran.
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McCoy
Your Issac Haines turned out well, except for the lock on the wrong side. Is the front sight on backwards? I built my IH last fall and have the front sight on so the tapered end drops towards the rear and last week somebody at the range mentioned that they thought it was supposed to go the opposite way.
Your Issac Haines turned out well, except for the lock on the wrong side. Is the front sight on backwards? I built my IH last fall and have the front sight on so the tapered end drops towards the rear and last week somebody at the range mentioned that they thought it was supposed to go the opposite way.
Now Gene,I thought you of all people would know that the French introduced the "Type C" on January 1,1680 and removed it from trade om December 31,1729 after which on January 1, 1730 they introduced "Type D" which lasted until 1763 and they used the same basic Jaeger lock the whole time.Truly amazing.
Tom :m2c:
Tom :m2c:
