Triple 7 for BP Revolver

[necchi]

Your probably not going to get an answer rodwha,
They lawyer up, their not going to advise you to load more powder.
Example;
If the gun maker says max is 30grns of Black Powder,, and they say too match Black powder charges,,reduce by 15%,,then that's their answer.
Simple.

Can you use more? Well obviously they aren't going to tell you to exceed manufacturers recomendation,, and get suied later because your gun blew up.
Do people load more, yes, and they either ruin the gun or hurt themselves or both.

I use T7 almost exclusivley in my rifles and smooth bores, for at least 10yrs now. I know from experimentation that I press on the ramrod (compress the load) with about 60# of pressure fairly consistantly.

I don't use T7 in my revovlvers because I've always felt it's not needed, not that I can't, I just figured I didn't need a hot burning powder to get accuracy from the Revolver/Pistol barrels.
I use Pyrodex P instead, and from recomendations here I compress that load alot!
Good Luck figuring it out, :wink:

 

[rodwha]

I can certainly understand their not wanting to step on out there and state that it's safe to overload what a manufacturer states as a max load with BP/Pyrodex. Especially when they can't control the parameters.

I may not get an answer. I haven't yet. I try not to push them into a corner by my wording, but get them to explain what the boundaries are.

I wish i knew for certain though. BP/Pyrodex leaves a lot to want in small volumes.

 

[rodwha]

For my revolver I do want a good charge as I may need it one day if I need to track a wounded hog. For that I wouldn't feel right if it didn't do as well as a 45 Colt or better. With Goex this isn't possible, but with Triple 7 it can surpass it. But I'm hoping to get to a point in which I can get good enough groups with it to hunt with as well. Where Goes doesn't give enough umph Triple 7 gives enough to go out beyond 25 yds.

 

[necchi]

Wounded Hog can be some serious business!

Uhm,
Colt Walker? :grin: :idunno: the Original 44mag,,

 

[rodwha]

My Old Army can come close to that without the need to reduce T7 loads. I can stuff 45 grns in there with a RB. I'm happy enough with the possibility of producing nearly 500 ft/lbs with a 240 grn conical.

Maybe one day I'll find myself in bear country too. Hoping to move somewhere with mountains and less humidity one day soon.

 

[Cowboy2]

Triple Seven is all I shoot in my cap and ball pistols. I have plenty of black, but this stuff shoots just as tight and doesn't require half the cleaning. Its got more thump to it than BP, so you really need to reduce your load. A member here suggested using 2f rather than 3f a while back, and its worked like a charm in my guns. But you do not want to compress much, or consistency goes out the window. I avoid this by charging the cylinder and then filling the rest of the space with cream of wheat, leaving roughly the ball depth empty. That way when I seat the ball just below flush, I know that its safely against the charge/cream of wheat, but not heavily compressed.

 

[GaCop]

Could lubed felt wads do just as good in filling the extra space under the ball?

Tom

 

[rodwha]

Indeed it does.

 

[Cowboy2]

Yep. I use cream of wheat simply because its cheap, I don't have to order or make it, and pouring it from a flask lets me control exactly how much room it takes up.

 

[rodwha]

Although I do have a honey bottle with Malt O Meal in it I quit using cereal to fill any remaining amount of chamber space and will use a wad.

My situation may be different than most in that I'm looking for loads I can hunt with vs what gives me the highest degree of accuracy.

I must admit that it seems strange to load cereal in a chamber...

 

[rodwha]

I view a felt wad as much more consistent and far easier to load. There is no need to measure anything and no extra vessel to carry.

But I do have empty pistol cases that I keep just in case I change my mind.

 

[cynthialee]

I was using wads to fill up the chamber but it ocured to me that corn meal is alot cheeper...

 

[Eljay]

I like the wads because I stick one in each chamber immediately after I fill it, which makes a nice visual indicator that the chamber has powder (given the lighting/angles at my range I never seem to be able to see just the powder very well).

 

[cynthialee]

you need a small table lamp

 

[Poor Private]

I also prefer wads, and for a couple of reasons. Yes oatmeal and cow is cheaper but way messier. Also it can mix with the top layer of the powder and influence the load of powder.
My wads I make myself. Initial cost os just a few bucks. A set of punches at the local Harbor Frt. and a few old wool felt hats from the resale shops, and a tube of bore butter . I can make thousands of wads from the mix of hats and bore butter. Also if I want touse a dry wad I can. With the punches I can make any size wad I need, from .60 cal on down to way to small to use. And using old felt hats I get some interesting colors of wads. from white, to neon green to black.