Very well said. If it works for you---------- then it works.
what oil to use?
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Very well said. If it works for you---------- then it works.
I believe you are very incorrect in that statement about Teflon. Webb Terry, one of the greatest ml champions in modern times was (I believe) the first to use Teflon as a patch lube. I was with him when he first began testing his idea. Webb won many-many matches, including National championships, using his Teflon patch material. And, he had a successful side business selling it. I have used it and may still have some but reverted back to more 'authentic' lubes for reasons I don't recall. Maybe cost, his material was a bit expensive. But it works great and does no damage to the rifle bores.
I think folks pick up what ever was handy for 700 years, fish oil, lard, tallow, unsalted butter,
Whale oil, bear oil, olive oil, wiping the face of a handy teenager, and called it good. Now we tend to stare at our bellybutton a bit much.
KISS
Whale oil, bear oil, olive oil, wiping the face of a handy teenager, and called it good. Now we tend to stare at our bellybutton a bit much.
KISS
Rifleman1776, I can say from personal knowledge that in modern rifle barrels firing a high velocity 6.5mm or 7.62 x51 (and certainly many other) round that Teflon can and will build up in the rifling of a barrel. The melting point of Teflon is 620 degrees faranheit, significantly lower than what is generated in a barrel. Coupled with the extreme pressure it will foul into the rifling and is very difficult to remove. Also I did make mention in my post that I doubted that it would be an issue of much consideration in our application of muzzloaders as the temperatures and pressures generated are considerably lower. I noticed that people had mentioned lubricants and oils that may contain Teflon additives and it popped into my head that shared knowledge is the only knowledge of any real value. If Teflon works for you, by all means use it. And as with any information, an individual should research and decide for themselves what their own needs are. I sincerely hope that I don't come across sounding like an stubborn ass here, just wanted to pass along something that I know a lot of people are unaware of.
Artie Peltier
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Dixie Gun Works sells a synthetic sperm whale oil. 8 oz bottle is 4.50 plus shipping. They list it as a non petroleum oil that copies the original oil. I’ve never used it but it looks like it has potential.Art
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FP10 for oiling, RIG for greasing. (mostly). Gun products for guns. (I know, how quaint?)
I used Mobile 1 on my not to be mentioned NFA guns it was great.
I do not and would not use it on my ML.
I do not and would not use it on my ML.
Way back 150+ years ago when the Petroleum Industry was just starting up how do you suppose shooters and gun owners used this new fangled product? Was this "oil from the ground" pretty much accepted or looked at with suspicion?
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EXCELLENT QUESTION!!!
It really is a matter of perspective isn't it?
I would tend too think people would have experimented with the “new” product, just as we do.... looking for a better mouse trap so too speak.
As stated above, if it works for you that’s all that really matters .
I was taught to use 3 & 1 oil on guns, is it the best oil out there... not likely but it worked.
That was in the 60’s -70’s,now I use Barricade and “I” have had great results with it... no rust.
I know a Gentleman who only uses motor oil.
He uses it in the bore, on the exterior of the metal and on the wood.
Right or wrong , it works for him.
He is in his mid 80’s, and I don’t think anyone can change his mind.
By the way he was a State Muzzleloading Champion when he was in his late teens,
So it’s not something he just started doing.
Here's a really good article, Be sure to click next at the bottom of the page as the article is many pages long and very interesting.
https://www.cherrybalmz.com/history-of-gun-lubricants-cfze
S.Kenton
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Fluid Film is what I use. I’ve used other oils, motor oil, WD-40, ATF, gun oil, rig and barricade. Fluid Film is the best I’ve found for bore protection.
It's non-toxic, environmentally friendly, renewable and not made from petroleum. Great for longer term protection and harsher conditions.
Bent Sight
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Is Fluid Form vegetable based oil? At least one of the new firearm oils touted to be the best black gun oil is vegetable based oil.
Archer 756
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G96Animal based= Lanolin/ wool wax
Another fine product that doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
It's a best kept secret.
It must be a well kept secret , I never heard of it. Do most Walmarts carry it or does one have to visit auto supply shops? Meaning is it a specialty item and is it expensive?
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Normally they do not stock it, but you can order it and have it shipped to the store.
If they have it. it is in Sports/Outdoors.
S.Kenton
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Exactly! My buddy doesn’t even wipe it out of his bore before he shoots his rifle, I do however run a patch soaked in solvent before shooting my rifle with fluid filming the bore.... Old habit..
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