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Will a flintlock stop a bear?
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larry wv said:
Larry I have several friends that have killed grizzlies with flinters. Personally have killed four black bears with a flinter and a half dozen plus buffalo with flintlock tradeguns. Have never had any backup other than a second flinter at my feet when shooting buffalo. You get close and place your shots, lay one gun down and get ready for a fast second shot if needed. After taking a dozen buffalo some at very close range, I still will break a sweat in zero weather. :shake:
For some reason the words ,get close, Grizzley and muzzle loader don't sound good used togather. Plenty of Black bear in Wv and they are not tough and very seldom aggresive. Don't expect its legal to G bear hunt with two rifles. So a back up shooter with a flinter would be one more shot and prob need to be pretty close to the first shooter. If I was a charging bear I would make a paying trip out of it and get some extra people burger for the winter. My guess is if the first shot doesn't stop the g-bear the second m-loader hit (if hit) won't either. I think the fun part would be over about then. But I am a farmer not a bear guide. :idunno: Larry
A flintlock (or any other firearm) will absolutely stop a charging grizzly 100% of the time if two conditions are met.
1) You have time to shoot
2) The shot disrupts the central nervous system
If condition #1 is not met, the answer becomes no. If condition #2 is not met the answer is maybe.
Broadside, double lung shots at undisturbed game are a completely different ballgame and have no bearing on this issue.
1) You have time to shoot
2) The shot disrupts the central nervous system
If condition #1 is not met, the answer becomes no. If condition #2 is not met the answer is maybe.
Broadside, double lung shots at undisturbed game are a completely different ballgame and have no bearing on this issue.
The nervous system is an organ system containing a network of specialized cells called neurons that coordinate the actions of an animal and transmit signals between different parts of its body. In most animals the nervous system consists of two parts, central and peripheral. The central nervous system contains the brain, spinal cord, and retina.
Head shot and preferably right through an eye.
Head shot and preferably right through an eye.
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you dont shoot bears in the head, the bullets bounce offZoar said:
BadHorse
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put one in the chestZoar said:
Oh yea I know about that bullet bouncing OFF stuff, the guys over in the modern gun websites keep saying you have to have those RUM's and those super duper 4,000 fps guns with boat atlks and CORLOCTS for boolit design because everyone knows these days an ordinary plane Ole' piece of lead flying at anything under 3,000 fps will just bounce off an animal, especially a head shot! I heard you never shoot a raccoon in the head too because the boolit just glances off and does NO damage at all. It is the shape of the skull and all. Damn that last **** I shot must have had a extra soft skull, abnormal that one. I must have some soft deer on my land too, when I shoot em with mere lead they go down! They aren't supposed to do THAT! Not without a Ultra Mag (RUM). I oughta send those deer back. Defective soft ones.
Darn I had to google it to refresh my memory but they say the only thing that works anymore is guns and ammo like the "300 RSAUM" and I think the other is UltraMaximusSuperDuper 5000, some kind of Boattail or other, uses a rudder to find its way, I imagine.
'Can't depend on lead Round Balls anymore. Technology is the way...
(NOT)
'Can't depend on lead Round Balls anymore. Technology is the way...
(NOT)
larry wv said:That chargeing G-bear is going to turn you into people burger before it dies with a chest shot. I am no expert but my advice to you would be to talk to a few before you go G-bear hunting.Larry
Sound wisdom... :thumbsup:
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Aw hell, I used to hunt grizzly bears all the time down in the Virgin Islands but they wuz SO scared of me they use to run away and hide. Yep, didn't even see ONE of 'em. That's a fact.
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Shhh, let him go, then we can read about it. :wink:larry wv said:That chargeing G-bear is going to turn you into people burger before it dies with a chest shot. I am no expert but my advice to you would be to talk to a few before you go G-bear hunting.
hanshi
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I have my own secret method (and I ain't telling) for surviving the many surprise attacks by grizzlies here in Va. So far it's worked 100% cause I still got two butt cheeks when I turn my back to the mirror. When all the big grizzlies get together at the salmon run they refer to me as "Mr." Or the bear equivalent which is something like "mrhhhff", I think. :hmm:
Wow, 156 posts on this thread! Anyone know the record for number of posts?
I reread the original post. I wonder what it is about certain posts that lead to marathon replies?
Flintlock stop a bear.... hmmmm, I suppose any modern bear would see that flash in the pan and ponder: "What The Heck Is That?" That might make him stop and pause.
I reread the original post. I wonder what it is about certain posts that lead to marathon replies?
Flintlock stop a bear.... hmmmm, I suppose any modern bear would see that flash in the pan and ponder: "What The Heck Is That?" That might make him stop and pause.
One reason this is interesting is our great-grandfathers actually may have encountered a bear. Plus the fellows in the show that saved the boys life only had traditional muzzleloaders with them. That bear could have easily come back and killed all three.
Plus it was raining!
Plus it was raining!
