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2024/2025 Squirrel Hunting Thread...........
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I dunno Ed. I'd still go in. Especially if a young snake gets you. They tend to give ya everything they've got as far as venom.
Ed, I know I speak for all your friends in here when I ask, PLEASE reconsider that.
We had a death from a copperhead bite near here [ LINK ] several years back.
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Banjoman
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Not very often, but I don’t squirrel hunt much until cooler weather. I may go on opening day just to go and maybe once more before cool weather. I stick to atv roads and am very careful where I put my feet, hands and bottom. I’m more bothered by skeeters, ticks, spiders and yeller jackets.
I prefer winter time for squirrel hunting. One of my favorite hunts was with the Fusil de Chasse, two inches of snow and twenty four degrees. It’s hard to beat flintlocks and winter.
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Agreed that the other critters are more of a concern than the snakes, at least for me. I see yellow jackets active at the slightest warm up in the fall and even early winter.
Had one serious bout of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever when I was much younger, so I now check for ticks thoroughly.
I suppose coyotes are a greater risk to my old dog than snakes, although I did have an owl try to grab him once. Never know if the threat is coming from the ground or the air.
Enjoying the great outdoors has its risks but well worth it in the end.
Jeff
Had one serious bout of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever when I was much younger, so I now check for ticks thoroughly.
I suppose coyotes are a greater risk to my old dog than snakes, although I did have an owl try to grab him once. Never know if the threat is coming from the ground or the air.
Enjoying the great outdoors has its risks but well worth it in the end.
Jeff
Truth be known, I’m 100 times more afraid of those goons at the nearest hospital here than a copperhead bite. The nearest halfway decent hospital is one hours drive.
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I had a pair of Jack Russells that got bit by a copperhead. It was in my back yard about 20 feet from my house. I was on the mower and saw it happen but didn’t realize it at first. They were in taller grass at the edge of the mowed part. One got bit twice. I kilt the snake by running over it with my mower.
I took them to the vet after their heads swelled up as big as a soccer ball. My concern was, considering they both got bit on the nose, that they might not be able to breathe later in the night. Vet gave them something for pain and said that’s all he could do. He also told me that if they get bitten a second time it would not be nearly as bad. After a 3rd time they become immune to it and it will barely phase them. It cost me just under $500.00.
Also, Yellowjackets are my number one hated insect. Much, much more than ticks, spiders, chiggers, skeeters, gnats and all of those combined. They not only sting, but they bite at the same time. Their bites are worse than their stings. A few years ago I got covered up with them one day while bow hunting. Knelt down to saw off a small sapling and didn’t know there was a nest underneath it. They went up my sleeves, under my shirt, under my glasses and all over my arms. They were so dug into my skin on my arms that I had a difficult time trying to brush them off of my arms. It physically made me sick for hours due to so many stings and bites. I was ticked off for months over that one.
The good aspect of Yellowjackets are, they’re not much of a problem unless you get into a nest of them. By that time it’s usually too late.
Hate them!
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Tom, I’ve always heard that about the smaller copperheads will inject more venom into a person than a larger one. Even the vet told me that. However, I’ve had people tell me otherwise. So, I did some research on this. It appears there are no concrete evidence to this either way. It depends on the information. It is said that some copperhead bites are dry. So, that supports the theory that they can regulate their venom output. It is also said that copperheads definitely regulate their venom output on their prey. They only inject enough into them to either kill them on the spot or incapacitate them. Sometimes they even follow the scent that a bitten prey animal leaves as it crawls away until it dies.
Either way, I seldom see a copperhead anywhere. I’ve killed more here at my house than anywhere else. I’ve only killed two here, one got away. One was under my firewood pile. Saw one a few years ago when I was cutting firewood. It was under a chunk of wood I had cut and went back to get. That was a big one but he got away. It was also on top of a ridge
The neighbors at the house at the end of our short and narrow road sees them every year. So, this tells me that copperheads definitely like to hang out on ridges, especially south facing ones.
Either way, as much as this ole boy is in the woods during hot weather seasons, I seldom see any kind of snake. This, IMO, can be a bad thing as it makes it easy to let my guard down a little at times and take more chances. As I have said, due to this knee replacement, I’m going to be wearing my snake gators more often. I scout a lot of new to me places and some of it is thicker than thick where it’s impossible to see where I’m putting my feet down. Snaky looking for sure. You just never know when or where a poisonous snake may be. I almost stepped on a copperhead a few years ago. It was difficult to stop my foot from going all the way down as I stepped over a forked log. That copperhead was stretched out along the opposite side of the log to where it was not visible from the other side. Even after I saw it, due to my foot on its way and being almost on the ground, it was difficult to make it to where I was able to plant my foot about 18 inches away instead of right on top of the snake.
By far, rattlesnakes are my biggest concern. I’m glad they are even more rare around here.
I’ll be wearing my snake gators this weekend for opening of squirrel season. Yes they are uncomfortable but they do allow me to focus more out in front, side to side and above me instead of worrying about a possible snake that I’m about to step on. So, snake gators definitely have more than just one advantage.
I thank you all that have given Input on this. I would be wise if and when I ever finally convince myself that I’m no longer a young, bullet proof man that can withstand anything.
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Banjoman
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Nice squirrel hunting setup. I've always been intrigued by the Frontier/Hatfield shape and unique design.
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Copperheads are to be watched out for. Never put hands nor feet where you haven't inspected. I usually carry a pistol w rat shot.
That’s true, they should always be watched out for. The problem is, regardless of how well a person tries, as I have for many years, they cannot always be seen. You won’t be hunting many places in this part of the country where you can always see where you put your feet down. Just the way it is.
A big stick is all that’s needed to kill one. Some people claim a narrow switch type branch will work but I’m not interested in trying it.
Also, research indicates that a high percentage of copperhead bites occur at peoples residences. There was a fellow that lived on another road not far from me in TN that got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. He got bit on one of his toes from a copperhead that got into his house.
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longcruise
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The thing about it is the venom does serious and some permanent damage to the muscular and vascular system in the bite area. Treatment could mitigate that. Then there's the antivenom that your local hospital probably has on hand.
And there's your alternate solution. Go to that vet for treatment.
I'm not sure exactly what a yellow jacket is or how they fit in with the other stingers. About three weeks ago I was trimming some limbs while standing on a rail tie garden divider. There was a nest in a space between ties. I cut a limb that fell on the ties. Apparently me standing on the ties, the limb falling and the sound of the electric trimmer set them off. I was swarmed and getting stung everywhere. I ran for the door and closed it behind me and the battle continued in the kitchen. By the time the incident was over I was stung a counted 31 times everywhere from feet (wearing sandals and shorts) to my neck. Luckily none got me on the head. I'm still not completely over it!!
When the "Battle Of The Kitchen" was over the enemy lay dead on the floor!
Mike, sorry to hear about that. Those do not look like Yellowjackets. Best I can see in the pic, those are darker looking.The thing about it is the venom does serious and some permanent damage to the muscular and vascular system in the bite area. Treatment could mitigate that. Then there's the antivenom that your local hospital probably has on hand.
And there's your alternate solution. Go to that vet for treatment.
I'm not sure exactly what a yellow jacket is or how they fit in with the other stingers. About three weeks ago I was trimming some limbs while standing on a rail tie garden divider. There was a nest in a space between ties. I cut a limb that fell on the ties. Apparently me standing on the ties, the limb falling and the sound of the electric trimmer set them off. I was swarmed and getting stung everywhere. I ran for the door and closed it behind me and the battle continued in the kitchen. By the time the incident was over I was stung a counted 31 times everywhere from feet (wearing sandals and shorts) to my neck. Luckily none got me on the head. I'm still not completely over it!!
When the "Battle Of The Kitchen" was over the enemy lay dead on the floor!
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Do a search on Yellowjackets so you can see what they look like. If it was, indeed, Yellowjackets that you got into, you should know by the he fact that they bite and sting at the same time. The bites hurt more in the long term. They itch and burn for at least a week. They dig in so hard when they bite it’s difficult to brush them off of your body. I swear, if Yellowjackets got the size of a sparrow, just one could kill a moose. They are the meanest little things I’ve ever encountered.
BTW, if I ever do get bitten by a copperhead, I’d much rather go to a vet than this local, poor excuse for a hospital here. Yes, they are that bad and most people around here know it.
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longcruise
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I looked them up per your suggestion. That was them! They look dark on the floor but they looked just like the pics in the search. I wasn't aware that they bite and sting.
I probably got both.
The worst of them seemed to dissolve the flesh like a spider bite.
I probably got both.The worst of them seemed to dissolve the flesh like a spider bite.
Yup. Very mean littleI looked them up per your suggestion. That was them! They look dark on the floor but they looked just like the pics in the search. I wasn't aware that they bite and sting.
The worst of them seemed to dissolve the flesh like a spider bite.
They eat holes in a body when they bite. They literally eat the skin away. Ya know, Yellowjackets are not all that bad until you get into a nest of them. Then things turn really bad, and in a hurry, too.
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It was a hit job Cruiser. If you follow the money trail, I bet you dollars to donuts it leads right back to the COLOY!The thing about it is the venom does serious and some permanent damage to the muscular and vascular system in the bite area. Treatment could mitigate that. Then there's the antivenom that your local hospital probably has on hand.
And there's your alternate solution. Go to that vet for treatment.
I'm not sure exactly what a yellow jacket is or how they fit in with the other stingers. About three weeks ago I was trimming some limbs while standing on a rail tie garden divider. There was a nest in a space between ties. I cut a limb that fell on the ties. Apparently me standing on the ties, the limb falling and the sound of the electric trimmer set them off. I was swarmed and getting stung everywhere. I ran for the door and closed it behind me and the battle continued in the kitchen. By the time the incident was over I was stung a counted 31 times everywhere from feet (wearing sandals and shorts) to my neck. Luckily none got me on the head. I'm still not completely over it!!
When the "Battle Of The Kitchen" was over the enemy lay dead on the floor!
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In all seriousness, glad to read you weren't seriously effected. That's a lot of stings! Man have killed a mortal man.
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