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Rob how long did it take to brown the barrel? I seem to remember you saying the plum brown is a slow process over several days?
Hi bud ....let's see now ....I wanted this one to be done fast but ...it didn't , LOL . I just my traditional heat with torch and hang it by wire . 3 days of that , applying a coat of Caseys browning each day then I sat it out in the sun . Sprayed it down with WD 40 and let it sit in sun two days . It looked bad ... I steel wooled it each day and applied morecWD but no good ....so I started pouring running alcohol on it .... Then I applied vHomer Danglers browning solution on it two days and left it out side ... It was two or three days of that and I steel wooled it , very fine wool , and it looked pretty darn good , I was surprised ! So I let it dit in the sun for two days applying oil , WD , darn near every time I walked by it . The Browning looked deep and even the length of the barrel by then . I sure didn't learn any short cuts that go round !! LOL :)
 
Hi bud ....let's see now ....I wanted this one to be done fast but ...it didn't , LOL . I just my traditional heat with torch and hang it by wire . 3 days of that , applying a coat of Caseys browning each day then I sat it out in the sun . Sprayed it down with WD 40 and let it sit in sun two days . It looked bad ... I steel wooled it each day and applied morecWD but no good ....so I started pouring running alcohol on it .... Then I applied vHomer Danglers browning solution on it two days and left it out side ... It was two or three days of that and I steel wooled it , very fine wool , and it looked pretty darn good , I was surprised ! So I let it dit in the sun for two days applying oil , WD , darn near every time I walked by it . The Browning looked deep and even the length of the barrel by then . I sure didn't learn any short cuts that go round !! LOL :)
Do you degrease it after the WD before you do the next coat the next day?
 
Do you degrease it after the WD before you do the next coat the next day?
I only degreased it the one time .... I had thought I could get away with 3 days of browning but it wasnt working ....thats when I decreased it , the only time , right before I started putting on the homer dangler browning solution on.it... There's no reason to degrease them usually . I wire wheel them clean. Dont touch with your fingers , then start the Browning .... Keep checking it every day , and applying more solution until it looks good , even and not splotchy ....In the winter usually take 10-15 days for me , summer , bit less ..
 
Hi bud ....let's see now ....I wanted this one to be done fast but ...it didn't , LOL . I just my traditional heat with torch and hang it by wire . 3 days of that , applying a coat of Caseys browning each day then I sat it out in the sun . Sprayed it down with WD 40 and let it sit in sun two days . It looked bad ... I steel wooled it each day and applied morecWD but no good ....so I started pouring running alcohol on it .... Then I applied vHomer Danglers browning solution on it two days and left it out side ... It was two or three days of that and I steel wooled it , very fine wool , and it looked pretty darn good , I was surprised ! So I let it dit in the sun for two days applying oil , WD , darn near every time I walked by it . The Browning looked deep and even the length of the barrel by then . I sure didn't learn any short cuts that go round !! LOL :)
Thanks Rob
 
I have used the low heat solder a lot. Didn't trust it at first and I didn't think it would work. Well to my surprise it works really well. I can't knock the sights or barrel lugs loose with a ball peen hammer.
It's my go to now. Others experience may vary....
 
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And here's the " Problem Child " build
...pretty cool thread ....
Hello Rob, I’m sorry it took so long to find your “Problem Child “ build / repair thread.
It’s been honor and a pleasure to your skills and problem solving abilities.
I have been collecting, repairing and building old guns for a many years. I have have found the biggest lessons to be learned are keep your eyes and ears open for new and different techniques to accomplish the task. You have always provided, unselfishly, much valuable information to all of us, regarding your “damn old trade guns” and I thank you.
 
Hello Rob, I’m sorry it took so long to find your “Problem Child “ build / repair thread.
It’s been honor and a pleasure to your skills and problem solving abilities.
I have been collecting, repairing and building old guns for a many years. I have have found the biggest lessons to be learned are keep your eyes and ears open for new and different techniques to accomplish the task. You have always provided, unselfishly, much valuable information to all of us, regarding your “damn old trade guns” and I thank you.
Well hey there bud ... D@mn ! I'd like to pick your brain !! I'm just a dumb ole Hillbilly but I just love trade guns , esp. N.W. Trade guns. I ain't got no great building skills but I'm stubborn and determined I'll tell ya ! LOL . Light , versatile as all get out and so much history ! Thank ya for the kind words . I like to give out ole Pryor Mountain Bill Newton's build manual and help folks out that want to build them a N.W. trade gun .Its been great helpin folks out that are 1000 miles away or more build a N.W. gun ! Love to hear gun build stories, see the pics , and huntin stories . Guns are so d@mn expensive , its crazy , I just love it when I can help someone , with buildin them a gun . Thank ya for the kind words , much appreciated :)
 
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Rob you build for the same reason I do...or I think you do..I build because having someone else do it for me is expensive. I understand all the experience we are paying them for and parts. But to spend almost $1500+ on a gun..? I just can't justify it. When I can make one ( ? ) that does what I need for 2/3 of it. Good bad or otherwise....
Besides I got that can I do it bug...lol
 
Hello Rob, I’m sorry it took so long to find your “Problem Child “ build / repair thread.
It’s been honor and a pleasure to your skills and problem solving abilities.
I have been collecting, repairing and building old guns for a many years. I have have found the biggest lessons to be learned are keep your eyes and ears open for new and different techniques to accomplish the task. You have always provided, unselfishly, much valuable information to all of us, regarding your “damn old trade guns” and I thank you.
I " tagged " ya on another build but , I'm a pretty " Low Tech " feller so dont know if I done it correctly or not . Kinda fun going through my build threads ! Go figure ! Take care bud ...
 
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