LolAnd after all the enabling we did. Sheeeeesh.
I say cut the rifle down to just a few inches in front of the rearmost ramrod pipe. Should make for something like a 20” barrel.
Such guns were called “canoe guns” back in the old times and you give up no major velocity or energy loses. Could still be used to hunt up to moose sized game out to 75 yards with a stout charge and a .535.
I assure you it would be handy enough and lightweight them! Robert Hoyt can easil do this
From a practical standpoint you’re 100% right those guns would make much more sense. It’s my love of the style and the look of the Lyman great plains rifles and Pedersoli Hawken That I wish to carry them. I’m just trying to find some middle ground between 28 inch barrel and a 34With the relatively heavy weights of some of the more popular guns, I'm surprised that more mountain hunters don't select a more light weight model like the Traditions .50 Deerhunter.
Having a 24" barrel, depending on a synthetic or wood stock, it's listed as only weighing 6 - 6.5 lbs, and most consider them to be good shooters with its 1 in 48" twist.
And then there's always the Traditions Kentucky .50 rifle that weighs 7 lbs. with a 1 in 66" twist and 33.5" barrel.
Even the Traditions Frontier .50 rifle is only listed as being 7 lbs. with a 1 in 48" and 28" barrel.
I think that it's mostly because so many people are like Popeye and always eat their spinach!
From a practical standpoint you’re 100% right those guns would make much more sense. It’s my love of the style and the look of the Lyman great plains rifles and Pedersoli Hawken That I wish to carry them. I’m just trying to find some middle ground between 28 inch barrel and a 34
What’s the best way to get ahold of him ? I’ve read plenty of posts here he can be hard to reach.Truth be known the Hawkens rifles were meant to be mostly carried on horseback, carried by the horse. They belonged to a group called the “Plains Rifles” and they were mostlay percussion or late flint half stock guns with stout barrels and big bores, made to take down the larger western aminals.
Really they were mostly custom affairs aside from some of the bigger names so you can get all sorts of barrel lengths. The Pedersoli Hawken is based off the J&S St. Louis Hawkens and those were all bespoke rifles. My $0.02? Do as the others have suggested and get the gun over to Bobby Hoyt. He will get it cut down for you and give it a dandy crown job and new sight.
I’m thinking I’m going to see if Mr Hoyt can rebore my .50 tc to a .54 in a faster twist. My last 2 bulls were shot at 111 and 130 yds so I do feel I should stick with conicals. The one at 130 yds dropped in his tracks with .460 No Excuse.
Lol now that’s funny! My bad on the period. 460 grain conicals called No Excuse bullets. A friend of mine was 50 yds behind me and could still hear it hit the elk.460.…. what .460 ? That elk should have died merely knowing you were in the woods with that gun...…..
Hmmm maybe I could learn to shoot lefty.... I can flip back and forth with my recurves from left to rightI have a .58 cap lock Investarms deluxe Hawken for sale, as long as you don't mind the lock is on the left side
That’s something I’m considering. I wouldn’t feel as bad cutting that barrel and the stock isn’t nearly as nice as the curly maple. So it could be considered more of a workhorse type gun. Beautiful gun none the less. Besides any excuse to buy another gun is alright with me !Buy the Lyman Great Plains and cut 2" of of it.
Truth be known the Hawkens rifles were meant to be mostly carried on horseback, carried by the horse. They belonged to a group called the “Plains Rifles” and they were mostlay percussion or late flint half stock guns with stout barrels and big bores, made to take down the larger western aminals.
Really they were mostly custom affairs aside from some of the bigger names so you can get all sorts of barrel lengths. The Pedersoli Hawken is based off the J&S St. Louis Hawkens and those were all bespoke rifles. My $0.02? Do as the others have suggested and get the gun over to Bobby Hoyt. He will get it cut down for you and give it a dandy crown job and new sight.
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