Barricade?

[dikman]

There are variations with kerosene, some are "low odour". I've known that Barricade is basically petroleum distillate and mineral oil, but I got curious after another member posted about his reaction to using a kerosene-based cleaner. I looked up the CAS (which is a different number to kerosene sold here in Oz) and then searched on the CAS number. There are, of course, many products with this CAS number, but a couple made reference to kerosene as another name for the ingredient(s). I then came across a company that makes aviation fuel, which they referred to as kerosene, and lo and behold it listed that CAS number for the product.

 

[AZbpBurner]

From the Barricade MSDS:

3. COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Description

Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Distillate
64742-47-8

Mineral Oil
64742-52-5
15

Heavy Petroleum Oxygenates, Barium neutralized
Mixture
20

Propylene Glycol Monomethyl Ether
107-98-2
4

Doesn't look or smell like any kerosine I've ever encountered, and, from my experience, effectively inhibits rust over time, while kerosine didn't.

 

[dikman]

64742-47-8 is what turned up as aviation fuel (also referred to as kerosene on the site). When I looked up "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Distillate" I was still no wiser, which is why I searched on the CAS number. As for preventing rust, it contains Mineral Oil, which is what is left behind as a coating when the distillate evaporates.

The odour (or lack thereof) doesn't mean much, as any competent chemist should be able to make it smell how they want.

 

[Zonie]

Whether Barricade is mainly a Naphthenic Distillate, Kerosene, Jet fuel or panther urine (you guys though I was going to say Panther P....) anyway, it works better than any other barrel protectorate that I've found.

It drys to the touch but still protects.

It doesn't cause any problems if black powder is shot in a barrel that still has the dry product on the barrel walls.

All in all, I think it's good stuff and it's all I use anymore on all of my guns.

 

[strato50]

Odd, I've read plenty of great reviews & related videos singing Ballistol's praise, especially for the our black powder arms. I just got a bit and it's really puts a shine on, and is excellent at cleaning out fouling.

I've got some patches soaking it up too at the moment, I'm going to test it out in that regard asap...

Really this is the first thread I've seen where Ballistol has been a disappointment.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Odd, I've read plenty of great reviews & related videos singing Ballistol's praise, especially for the our black powder arms. I just got a bit and it's really puts a shine on, and is excellent at cleaning out fouling.

I've got some patches soaking it up too at the moment, I'm going to test it out in that regard asap...

Really this is the first thread I've seen where Ballistol has been a disappointment.

It is fine as a cleaner, patch lube and parts lube. It is not effective as a rust protectant.

 

[Billnpatti]

I agree, I use the stuff and think it is top shelf stuff but I prefer Barricade for rust protection. Lately, I have been trying a product called Frog Lube to see how it is as a rust preventer. So far, it is looking good. It is in the testing stage for me so I haven't completely switched over just yet. I am trying it on only one rifle and so far it seems to do just what they say it will. They say it "seasons" the bore. I am not buying that but I will say that it does do something akin to seasoning. I am calling it "conditioning" the bore. I ran some tests to see if it actually did anything measurable to the bore. It does and I have proof of that. It makes the bore slicker. That is good for modern weapons but I am not sure if it is a good thing for muzzleloaders. :idunno: The MV from a bore treated with Frog Lube is a bit lower than that from a non-treated bore. It is enough to be statistically significant. The group from a treated bore was smaller than the one from a non-treated bore. That difference was also statistically significant. It is looking like good stuff but so far, I am using it on only one rifle to see how it goes. Anyone else trying it? If so, jump in and tell me what you think about it.

 

[bpd303]

Odd, I've read plenty of great reviews & related videos singing Ballistol's praise, especially for the our black powder arms. I just got a bit and it's really puts a shine on, and is excellent at cleaning out fouling.

I've got some patches soaking it up too at the moment, I'm going to test it out in that regard asap...

Really this is the first thread I've seen where Ballistol has been a disappointment.

Here ya go... http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/280346/post/1284154/hl//fromsearch/1/

 

[ChrisLJ]

I've been using Ballistol for awhile now and really like it, even though it has a funky smell. I don't think you can consider it "the best" at any one thing. Not for copper fouling, and it does nothing to lead. You can probably find better things for a wood stock, and it's not the perfect rust inhibitor. But I treat all of my guns as carefully as possible, and enjoy wiping them down inside and out fairly regularly, whether just having been used or not. I consider it to be a good all-around product and like the way my guns look from using it. If you like it then use it, until you find something you like better.

 

[dikman]

I've come across a few reports of people who have had rust appear in their barrels when relying on Ballistol for protection. It's basically medicinal-grade white oil (derived from paraffin) with some alcohol mixed in.

I reckon Barricade would be the better of the two.

 

[Rifleman1776]

I also belong to a modern gun forum I visit occasionally. Nothing good about Frog Lube has ever been posted there. Some of the comments would get us slapped down by the moderators if repeated here. :shocked2:

 

[dikman]

Now that is interesting - not the "slapped down by the moderators" bit, the other bit.