British Light Sea Service Dragoon project !

[Clark Badgett]

He was ok with it, get over it

Yeah, wiscoaster is bit of a virtue signaler.

 

[wiscoaster]

Finally took the leap and draw knifed off the “belly”
This step had me abit worried…..definitely was lottsa wood to play with under the ramrod channel/hole so it should work out okay!

I'm really impressed with how you've been able to work with that awful teak wood. I thought it was kind of like working with dried paper mache.

 

[wiscoaster]

Yeah, wiscoaster is bit of a virtue signaler.

It's a nasty job, somebody's got to do it to keep you guys virtuous.

 

[BCWILL]

I'm really impressed with how you've been able to work with that awful teak wood. I thought it was kind of like working with dried paper mache.

You got that right !!! Fibres tear…sanding dust turns to mush !
Weird stuff compared to maple or walnut
Sharp Sharp tools !!!

 

[FlinterNick]

You got that right !!! Fibres tear…sanding dust turns to mush !
Weird stuff compared to maple or walnut
Sharp Sharp tos !!!

I sometimes suspect that Indian gun stock wood is from old wood sitting around or pulled from something like an old dock or barn, why it’s so dry and brittle with tight grains. Trying to get moisture into them is futile.

I’ve actually seen some Indian made gun stocks with termite tunnels in them, termites don’t eat live wood

 

[FlinterNick]

You got that right !!! Fibres tear…sanding dust turns to mush !
Weird stuff compared to maple or walnut
Sharp Sharp tools !!!

Pen makers use very thin crazy glue as a varnish on teak and brittle woods, just a thought. It’s rubbed in with something like a rubber glove. Dries in under a minute

 

[wiscoaster]

I sometimes suspect that Indian gun stock wood is from old wood sitting around or pulled from something like an old dock or barn, why it’s so dry and brittle with tight grains. Trying to get moisture into them is futile.

I think maybe you're on to something there. I once had a sailboat with teak side rails and various trim and that teak was strong, solid stuff. Nothing at all like what these gun stocks are made from.

 

[Xenophon]

Y’all are scaring me away from India made pistols. Still, I’m in no hurry to buy I guess so I will just keep paying close attention to this thread. I’m learning a lot.

 

[wiscoaster]

Y’all are scaring me away from India made pistols. .....

No need to be scared away if you get one from Loyalist Arms or Veteran Arms. They do a pretty decent job of getting them up-to-speed for you. The only downside is the wait time.

 

[FlinterNick]

Y’all are scaring me away from India made pistols. Still, I’m in no hurry to buy I guess so I will just keep paying close attention to this thread. I’m learning a lot.

Do you want to work on the gun ?

Here is a used Japanese one these bid pretty low, might need a tune. These were sold by navy arms and Dixie Gun works in the 1990’s

SAR 1807 Harpers Ferry Style Flintlock Black Powder Pistol NOFFL

Look it up at live auction.com

 

[Xenophon]

Do you want to work on the gun ?

Here is a used Japanese one these bid pretty low, might need a tune. These were sold by navy arms and Dixie Gun works in the 1990’s

SAR 1807 Harpers Ferry Style Flintlock Black Powder Pistol NOFFL

Look it up at live auction.com

Thanks. I may need to start following some auction sites.

Yes, I think that if I get one of the guns discussed in this thread I would want to make many of the modifications discussed. I just need to up my skill set. That’s the genesis of my “scared” remark earlier.

 

[wiscoaster]

....

..... I just need to up my skill set. That’s the genesis of my “scared” remark earlier.

Buy something cheap, like a Traditions Kentucky kit, that you don't mind destroying in order to build your skill set.

 

[Clark Badgett]

It's a nasty job, somebody's got to do it to keep you guys virtuous.

My virtue left the building about 3 decades back. I was a grunt, not a choirboy.

 

[PathfinderNC]

This pistol project is really interesting! It’s probably a lot less stressful than building a higher end kit which makes it more fun I would think. Keep at it!

 

[BCWILL]

This pistol project is really interesting! It’s probably a lot less stressful than building a higher end kit which makes it more fun I would think. Keep at it!

You got that right ! So far I’m only into it for about 350 canadian

Which is like 30 bucks US !

 

[BCWILL]

So finally got some home time away from work….
Had to tidy up the new pipe guide before I could begin to inlet it …
As cast its kinda neat you can see the original “assembly numerals” on it. Never see them but kinda neat they are there !



Cleaned up the cast marks and sprue…tried to leave the file marks and dings evident on the original.



Ready to inlet

 

[BCWILL]

While playing with the entry pipe I wanted to play with finishes to try and darken up the wood and even out the tones….it had an almost pinkish hue in places ! So I’ve had great success in the past with ebonizing solutions (vinegar & steel wool) so i tried that.
I suspect applying a tannin solution first ( strong tea works for this) would have enhanced the darkening effect but I’m not after black, just abit
darker
After 3 coats…letting dry between.

After rubbing off the grey….
Definitely darker and a more even brown vs the pinkish hues.
Should appear more like I want (dark walnut) after the final finish.


Probably gonna stick to a basic “London finish” on this………hand rubbed Boiled linseed oil…definitely lottsa pores to fill on this wood.
We’ll see

 

[Clark Badgett]

The wood on English service arms usually have more of a reddish tint due to the nature of European walnut.

Dave Persons has put up many a description of his method to make Juglans Negra more resemble Juglans Regia.

 

[FlinterNick]

The wood on English service arms usually have more of a reddish tint due to the nature of European walnut.

Dave Persons has put up many a description of his method to make Juglans Negra more resemble Juglans Regia.

I think some may have been lacquered too with dragons blood resin

 

[BCWILL]

…Dave Persons has put up many a description of his method to make Juglans Negra more resemble Juglans Regia.

Thanks….Mr Persons posts over the years have been extremely helpful on earlier projects ! Man knows a thing or two no doubt about that
I will definitely be searching some of his posted methods !
Thanks for the reminder