Is using Iosso bore cleaner ok to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning won't??

[Steel Guitar]

Hello,
Is using Iosso bore cleaner ok to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning won't??

 

[deerstalkert]

just read their pimping page. seems you can use it for anything, hair gel, underarm deodorant, foot fungus, frying chicken etc.
should be safe for a muzzleloader bore. test it for us and give a first hand report!

 

[david w]

I think it's a bit overboard. It is made for modern guns. i use MAP, Murphy's Oil Soap, isopropyl alcohol, and hydrogen peroxide in equal amounts, It is also a good patch lube.

 

[tenngun]

Every ml has their own best way, and all are the best. I would take care with hydrogen peroxide. H2O2. Water is H2O. An oxygen atom with two hydrogen atoms bound to it. Peroxide binds another oxygen atom. It’s loosely bound. That’s where he foam comes from.
to clean with it the extra oxygen atom breaks off, and the out gassing loosens crud, the extra oxygen can bind with carbon and makes it easy to break crud out.
However oxygen binds with iron and steel real well creating rust.
Use caution when using it in a barrel

 

[Steel Guitar]

tenngun, are you talking about how Iosso works??

 

[SDSmlf]

I think it's a bit overboard. It is made for modern guns. i use MAP, Murphy's Oil Soap, isopropyl alcohol, and hydrogen peroxide in equal amounts, It is also a good patch lube.

OP was about using Iosso bore cleaner to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning wasn’t removing. Curious how you use MAP to remove rust?

 

[david w]

OP was about using Iosso bore cleaner to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning wasn’t removing. Curious how you use MAP to remove rust?

The OP can make his decision on what ever he wants. Clean your gun the right way, every time, and there is no rust. Simple.

 

[dave951]

Marvel Mystery oil works good. It's available at nearly any auto parts store

 

[david w]

Marvel Mystery oil works good. It's available at nearly any auto parts store

I've heard of that. I haven't tried it, but it may work well. i don't think one needs to pay $9 for one half an ounce + shipping.

 

[tenngun]

tenngun, are you talking about how Iosso works??

No about the post above using peroxide. I am not familiar with Lasso at all.
I just use water in my guns, but folks use just about anything to clean.
the very best way is what works for you.
David W seems to have real good results with peroxide.
Others have had trouble with rusting after useing peroxide.
So one does ok with it, one doesn’t, how do you explain?
Care.
One just has to be careful with what ever you use, and peroxide is very reactive with steel

 

[david w]

No about the post above using peroxide. I am not familiar with Lasso at all.
I just use water in my guns, but folks use just about anything to clean.
the very best way is what works for you.

Plain water does clean, but there are methods that does the same thing quicker. i choose quicker.

 

[Archer 756]

David w yes Moose Juice

 

[Grimord]

I have used the iosso bore paste on guns that were neglected and had rusty bores. I put a small dab on a patch cut from a Scotch Brite green pad to scrub the bore. It does a pretty good job or removing rust and will smooth out any pitting.

 

[SDSmlf]

The OP can make his decision on what ever he wants. Clean your gun the right way, every time, and there is no rust. Simple.

So I guess if there is rust you toss the gun? But you have never seen rust in a bore, so OPs question about rust is pure silliness…..

Is using Iosso bore cleaner ok to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning won't??

Losso bore cleaner will not hurt your bore if you use it to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning won’t. Leaving the rust and crud in the bore that normal cleaning won’t may damage the bore.

 

[david w]

So I guess if there is rust you toss the gun? But you have never seen rust in a bore, so OPs question about rust is pure silliness…..

Losso bore cleaner will not hurt your bore if you use it to remove rust and crud that normal cleaning won’t. Leaving the rust and crud in the bore that normal cleaning won’t may damage the bore.

It seems I have offended you.

 

[Steel Guitar]

I put a 50/50 combo of peroxide and white vinegar to eat out leading and left it in a little too long what came out was rust colored and the bore tries to rust on me (but it got the lead out.). Sometimes the chemical reaction can be more than you want.

 

[SDSmlf]

It seems I have offended you.

No, not offended at all. I was just attempting to answer the OP’s question. OP asked about cleaning up rust on a gun with Losso and didn’t need to told don’t let it rust. Kind of like asking for what to take to feel better when one has a cold and being told don’t catch a cold.

Rust is going to happen to most, and cleaning it can be a challenge.

 

[deerstalkert]

groundhog day!

 

[doubleset]

Every ml has their own best way, and all are the best. I would take care with hydrogen peroxide. H2O2. Water is H2O. An oxygen atom with two hydrogen atoms bound to it. Peroxide binds another oxygen atom. It’s loosely bound. That’s where he foam comes from.
to clean with it the extra oxygen atom breaks off, and the out gassing loosens crud, the extra oxygen can bind with carbon and makes it easy to break crud out.
However oxygen binds with iron and steel real well creating rust.
Use caution when using it in a barrel

Despite the simple alphabetic/qualitative ("Brawndo has electrolytes") approach to molecular chemistry here, using hydrogen peroxide in the concentrations that people do in mixing up these gun-cleaning concoctions will not produce rust-enhancing levels of peroxide.

On normal steel, there's no concern about peroxide itself being corrosive or enhancing corrosion if its concentration is below 8%. Corrosion charts for it typically begin at 10%. The concentration in the OTC drugstore peroxide you get is on the level of 3%. Then consider that that is being significantly diluted! So in fact, at the concentrations being used in all these Moose Milk (or whatever ) cleaners, the only thing to be worried about is that you're just wasting the peroxide because it's having no effect at all at those low concentrations. Not to mention that even with fairly concentrated hydrogen peroxide, if you want it to be reactive within a short period, you need to boost the temperature up to something like 50 degrees C (120 degrees F).

But y'all can sure continue to believe what you like. We've all gotta have our magic elixirs and fears of scary chemicals.

 

[tenngun]

Despite the simple alphabetic/qualitative ("Brawndo has electrolytes") approach to molecular chemistry here, using hydrogen peroxide in the concentrations that people do in mixing up these gun-cleaning concoctions will not produce rust-enhancing levels of peroxide.

On normal steel, there's no concern about peroxide itself being corrosive or enhancing corrosion if its concentration is below 8%. Corrosion charts for it typically begin at 10%. The concentration in the OTC drugstore peroxide you get is on the level of 3%. Then consider that that is being significantly diluted! So in fact, at the concentrations being used in all these Moose Milk (or whatever ) cleaners, the only thing to be worried about is that you're just wasting the peroxide because it's having no effect at all at those low concentrations. Not to mention that even with fairly concentrated hydrogen peroxide, if you want it to be reactive within a short period, you need to boost the temperature up to something like 50 degrees C (120 degrees F).

But y'all can sure continue to believe what you like. We've all gotta have our magic elixirs and fears of scary chemicals.

I put bacon fat on my cast iron, and never had rust. But won’t put it on a gun
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