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Lyman plains pistol
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I just picked up a .50 cal Lyman Plains pistol and had it out at the range last Saturday. Used about 30 gr of 3F, .490 ball and .010 patch. Girlfriend and I both shoot. For the first time either of us ever shot a blackpowder pistol, both were keeping all shots within about a 6" X 6" box at 25 yards. I don't think that is bad freehand for a pistol with that weight. I would say it is a very accurate gun right out of the box. It was a load of fun to shoot!
BEWARE vetman03
Black powder shooting is addictive.
The more you shoot it, the more you will want to shoot it.
Soon, your modern weapons will idly sit by while you drag out your black powder pistol and rifles and shotgun.
You will come home from the shooting range smelling like a fragment of a exploded firecracker with a large grin on your face.
You've been warned. :grin:
Black powder shooting is addictive.
The more you shoot it, the more you will want to shoot it.
Soon, your modern weapons will idly sit by while you drag out your black powder pistol and rifles and shotgun.
You will come home from the shooting range smelling like a fragment of a exploded firecracker with a large grin on your face.
You've been warned. :grin:
Having to clean the blackpowder pistol and rifle will still keep me shooting centerfire rounds a lot, although I took a trip up to Dixon's Muzzleloading shop today, about an hour from here to pick up a few things. If you are ever in the Central PA area, you have the largest Cabela's in the country and Dixon's Muzzleloading shop about ten miles apart. Dixon's is miss-named though. It is a freakin' museum that happens to sell just about anything anyone could need for blackpowder guns going back for as long as they existed!
Dixion's is a good one all right. 
???vetman03 said:
I can clean a BP gun in less than half the time it takes to scrub a modern gun.
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I have been hearing this for many years but I think this depends on how thoroughly one cleans them.
One must clean a muzzle loader to keep it from destruction but it is optional with smokeless.
For instance, breaking a smokeless revolver down occasionally to lube and clean the innards is necessary perhaps once a year but I never feel like I can let my cap and ball guns go without disassembly each time I use them and they always have fouling inside after only a few cylinders full.
So at least to the degree of cleanliness I feel safe about leaving black powder arms they always take longer to clean than my smokeless counterparts which don't really need any cleaning at all to be perfectly safe from corrosion under normal conditions.
Same with rifles and single shot pistols.
I have noticed over the years this proves true when looking at used guns. Most used black powder guns I have examined over the years have some degree of pitting from inadequate cleaning. Mike D.
One must clean a muzzle loader to keep it from destruction but it is optional with smokeless.
For instance, breaking a smokeless revolver down occasionally to lube and clean the innards is necessary perhaps once a year but I never feel like I can let my cap and ball guns go without disassembly each time I use them and they always have fouling inside after only a few cylinders full.
So at least to the degree of cleanliness I feel safe about leaving black powder arms they always take longer to clean than my smokeless counterparts which don't really need any cleaning at all to be perfectly safe from corrosion under normal conditions.
Same with rifles and single shot pistols.
I have noticed over the years this proves true when looking at used guns. Most used black powder guns I have examined over the years have some degree of pitting from inadequate cleaning. Mike D.
I take my cap and ball revolver completely apart about every 30 cylinders worth of bullets. So that would be 180 shots or so.
It never seems to be too cruddy in there when I do get to it.
Field striping and a thorough cleaning are sufficient for most of the time I clean it.
It never seems to be too cruddy in there when I do get to it.
Field striping and a thorough cleaning are sufficient for most of the time I clean it.
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A case in point is a used,blue, ROA I picked up and more currently the .36 cal mod 62. The barrel and cylinder on the ROA was immaculate but the hammer and some other internal parts were pitted up some. The 62 has minor barrel pitting.
I find this rather common when inspecting used revolvers and it can only be from insufficient cleaning.
It takes me nearly an hour to break them down, clean, grease and oil to the place I feel confident they will be kept pristine.
Some worry about screw heads and threads being worn loose by this but if correctly fitting tools,torquing, and proper lube is used the screws and pins won't wear out any quicker than any other part of the arm. MD
I find this rather common when inspecting used revolvers and it can only be from insufficient cleaning.
It takes me nearly an hour to break them down, clean, grease and oil to the place I feel confident they will be kept pristine.
Some worry about screw heads and threads being worn loose by this but if correctly fitting tools,torquing, and proper lube is used the screws and pins won't wear out any quicker than any other part of the arm. MD
Lyman Plains pistol in 50 and 54 cal are great pistols.
Had a 50 cal until it was stolen. Bought a 54 cal. and I am happy with it.
30 GR OF 2F BP and a .015 lubed patch is accurate out to 25 yds.
Didn't know anyone else made a quality pistol like Lyman. Still don't. :thumbsup:
Had a 50 cal until it was stolen. Bought a 54 cal. and I am happy with it.
30 GR OF 2F BP and a .015 lubed patch is accurate out to 25 yds.
Didn't know anyone else made a quality pistol like Lyman. Still don't. :thumbsup:
"Didn't know anyone else made a quality pistol like Lyman. Still don't."
Need to look at Pedersoli, if wish to see craftsmanship and workmanship.
Lyman triggers are like anchors, Pedersoli triggers are like Swiss watches.
Need to look at Pedersoli, if wish to see craftsmanship and workmanship.
Lyman triggers are like anchors, Pedersoli triggers are like Swiss watches.
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The Lyman pistol is a great pistol. some say that the stock is prone to breaking but I am of the opinion that most, if not all, of these breaks are caused by over loading and improper loading technique. Given enough force, you can break almost anything. The muzzleloading pistol can kill deer and hogs, etc. but it was not really meant for that use. It is meant for shooting targets at ranges of 10 to 25 yards. So, if you use reasonable loads of 25 to 30 grains of 3f black powder, you will have a very nice and accurate pistol. Also, do not try to cram an extremely tight ball/patch combination down the bore. The needed forces to do this when setting the butt of the gun on a bench can quite likely cause the stock to crack or break. Use a proper fitting ball/patch combination and either hold the gun in your hand when loading or find a proper fitting stand that will properly hold your pistol in such a way that the force of loading is not all placed on the juncture of the butt and the forestock. If you use a proper load and a proper ball/patch combination and load with a proper stand, you can enjoy your Lyman pistol and its excellent accuracy for a long time. It's a great gun.
If you buy a used one, examine it carefully for signs of cracks or breaks in the stock in addition to all of the other usual examinations one does when buying a used gun. you never know what the previous owner may have done to it. Caveat emptor......buyer beware.
If you buy a used one, examine it carefully for signs of cracks or breaks in the stock in addition to all of the other usual examinations one does when buying a used gun. you never know what the previous owner may have done to it. Caveat emptor......buyer beware.
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I've built both the GPR & PP in .54 and they are fine fine shooters. I havent the need nor felt it neccesary to bring my charge of black powder above 30grs (pistol of course). And my GPR is quite accurate at 80grs.
After a days shooting I truly don't mind tearing them down and giving a scrub. It actually allows me to try different methods and different recipes other than plain old hot water and a wee bit of dish soap. I built a loading stand from some spare hardwood floor planks, works for me.
Cheers :hatsoff:
After a days shooting I truly don't mind tearing them down and giving a scrub. It actually allows me to try different methods and different recipes other than plain old hot water and a wee bit of dish soap. I built a loading stand from some spare hardwood floor planks, works for me.
Cheers :hatsoff:
Pedersoli Kentucky Maple, 50 cal; flint...it presents itself as custom made out of the box. Quality. Expensive. Walnut stock is cheaper, but that Maple...wow!
Vearl said:
Each person has requirements of what they want in a pistol and what they can afford.
Each person has their minimum standards they will accept, Lyman is below my bar substantially.
I am a line shooter, Lyman's do not make the winners board in a 1,000 point match.
Women, I will not touch that at all.
We all get to spend our money as we wish.
I have a pair of the Kentucky's in walnut, percussion and flintlock, nice pistols, they are winning matches.
I wish I had bought the maple to start with, was not avaiable.
I bought a pair of Charles Moore's, flint and percussion, they make Lyman's look like starter pistols, which they are for line shooters.
We all get to upgrade as we can.
Seems Pedersoli is upgrading as I spend my money, after the fact.
My Rocky Mountain Hawken was in the first container to the U.S., it's walnut. Now there is maple.
Sigh.
I wish I had bought the maple to start with, was not avaiable.
I bought a pair of Charles Moore's, flint and percussion, they make Lyman's look like starter pistols, which they are for line shooters.
We all get to upgrade as we can.
Seems Pedersoli is upgrading as I spend my money, after the fact.
My Rocky Mountain Hawken was in the first container to the U.S., it's walnut. Now there is maple.
Sigh.
