Pancakes

[coloradoclyde]

Welcome back!.... :haha:

 

[coloradoclyde]

NV, I think pancakes are "flat breads"....Pasta is boiled...And pies!....I'm not sure how to classify them, other than round.

Do some Googling :wink:

 

[satx78247]

In point of fact, I wouldn't even argue against AREPAS from South America being a sort of pancake, as the peasants there sometimes cut them open, fill the interior with "queso fresca", stack them with sliced fruit between the layers & then cover the "stack" with more cheese, sugar and/or sweetened whipped cream.

yours, satx

 

[coloradoclyde]

Papusa ?

 

[Nativearizonan]

NV, I think pancakes are "flat breads"....Pasta is boiled...And pies!....I'm not sure how to classify them, other than round.

Do some Googling :wink:

Okay, I googled the definition of pancake. Here it is from Merriam Webster:

Definition of pancake
: a flat cake made of thin batter and cooked (as on a griddle) on both sides

Perhaps you have not made tortillas, but they do not fit this definition, as they are not made with a thin batter. The consistency of the dough used to make tortillas is more like modeling clay. You cannot call that a thin batter.

A pancake, as well as a tortilla may both be flat bread, but that does not mean they are the same thing any more than does the fact a chicken and a cow are both meat makes them the same thing.

 

[coloradoclyde]

That is the definition for an American pancake......

Pancakes, regardless of where they are made all share similar characteristics...I think you are assuming that everyone makes the same pancake but uses a different name...When The reality is that everyone makes different pancakes and has different names.

 

[coloradoclyde]

A pancake, as well as a tortilla may both be flat bread, but that does not mean they are the same thing any more than does the fact a chicken and a cow are both meat makes them the same thing.

A chicken an a cow are both meat but,.....Different pancakes are more analogous to different types of steaks.....Rib-eye, porterhouse, hanger etc....

Nice argument though... :thumbsup:

 

[Billnpatti]

And now back to Annals of Improbable Research for an in depth study of flounder VS pancake, a microscopic study using digital imaging processing and a confocal laser microscope to construct a topographic profile to determine which is flatter. :rotf:

My personal favorite was the Journal of Irreproducible Results (http://jir.com/) - they had issues in the Biology reading room at my University....

Years ago, I used to subscribe to the JIR. It was a scream!!! I didn't know it was still in publication. If it is, I may have to subscribe again.

 

[Black Hand]

Far more interesting than many of the factual, data-filled articles that I was usually reading...

 

[Kansas Jake]

Clyde, aebleskiver, I have a couple of pans for cooking them in the kitchen. They are definitly not a flat pancake, but are related and ohhhhh so good. Each of my daughters also have pans at their house. One of these years I'll finally master turning them without making a mess.

 

[sidelock]

I was an engineering co op student at VA Tech starting in 1953 and was working at the Yorktown NWS during my working quarter. A very happy experience, but the Marine guard at the gates were a pain in the butt.

 

[Nativearizonan]

That is the definition for an American pancake......

Pancakes, regardless of where they are made all share similar characteristics...I think you are assuming that everyone makes the same pancake but uses a different name...When The reality is that everyone makes different pancakes and has different names.

No, that is the definition of a pancake. If you want the definition of a pan cake, it would be different.

 

[Billnpatti]

They had to be, there is a lot of top secret stuff there like missles, torpedos, etc. All of the top secret stuff is kept in enclosed areas called "Q Areas". As a Hospital Corpsman, I had to have access to all of these areas in case of an accident or illness. As a result, I had to get a top secret clearance just to be stationed there. So, the guards being a pain in the butt......that was their job. If they had been lax, their butts would have been in a sling....big time.

Inside the fence of the NWS, there were guards who patrolled the interior of the base, too. They also took their job quite seriously. I'll tell you of a story that happened while I was there. We had a change of command and the new commanding officer decided to take a look at his new command. He was dressed in his civvies and used his own car to drive around on the base. He drove past a sign which indicated that he was entering a restricted area. The Marine guard patrolling the area saw him but, since he was a new commanding officer, the guard didn't recognize him. The guard stopped him and made him get out of the car and spread him across the hood of his car. He asked who he was and why he was in a restricted area. The new CO said that he was the CO of the base and asked if the guard didn't recognize him. The guard said that he didn't recognize him and asked for identification. He said that he didn't care who the man said he was, if the CO didn't have the proper identification, he was going to be cuffed and taken into custody. The new CO showed the guard his ID and the guard immediately released him with an apology. The new CO said it was okay and the guard was doing a good job. Shortly after that, the guard was called to the CO's office and given a commendation for doing such a good job of keeping the area secure.

Don't fault the guards for doing their jobs. The security of NWS is serious business and they do take it seriously. After all, they are Marines. :thumbsup:

 

[Billnpatti]

I'll tell you another story about NWS security. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with pancakes, although the chow hall did serve some pretty good pancakes. ff But here it is: One day a few of us corpsmen checked out a motor boat from Special Services and went for a joy ride down the river toward Yorktown. We stopped at the bar that was near the river and downed a few cool ones. Meanwhile, the tide came in and caused the river to rise. Our boat was simply pulled up on the bank of the river and the rising water came over the transom of the boat. When we came out to get back in our boat, it was swamped on the river bank. We managed to get it emptied and re-floated. Unfortunately, water had gotten into the motor and shortly after re-starting it and getting under way to return up the river to the base, the motor conked out and we couldn't get it re-started. The incoming tide was carrying us toward the dock at the base and an atomic sub, the Thomas Jefferson, was tied up at the dock while some of the missiles were being changed out. When that was happening, the dock and the area around it was highly restricted. It had gotten dark and we had no control of our boat and were being carried by the current into the dock. The Marine guards shined a spotlight on us and told us to stay away from the pier. They had unshouldered their weapons and were ready to shoot if we got any closer. I stood up and identifed myself and told the guard that we had no power and could not control our boat. The guard, who knew me, said "Doc, I don't care who the hell you are, if you come past those bouys I will shoot you." I knew he was serious as hell and asked what I should do. Meanwhile two of the other guys were using a pair of water skis as paddles and paddling like hell trying, with little success, to keep us away from the pier, toward which we were being inenxorably swept. Fortunately, an officer drove up in a pickup and told the guard to stand down. He instructed us to stop against the pier and wait for a guard to identify us. As it worked out, the guard checked us out and allowed us to pull the boat along the pier and work it back into the shed where it was kept. Yep, those guards are damned serious and I had the stain in my drawers to prove it. :haha:

 

[coloradoclyde]

That is the definition for an American pancake......

Pancakes, regardless of where they are made all share similar characteristics...I think you are assuming that everyone makes the same pancake but uses a different name...When The reality is that everyone makes different pancakes and has different names.

No, that is the definition of a pancake. If you want the definition of a pan cake, it would be different.

Semantics...

Dig deeper into the etymologies and histories

Once you leave the I.H.O.P. it's a different world.


Also!..Keep in mind that the corn tortilla is south American but the flour tortilla is Europen in origin..... Tortilla in Spanish means "small torta", or "small round cake"),

tortilla (n.) 1690, from American Spanish tortilla, from Spanish, "a tart," literally "a little cake," diminutive of torta "cake," from Late Latin torta "flat cake"



So, you see....You are thinking that a tortilla is Mexican....When the tortilla in question is a Spanish pancake...

Here's a recipe... http://allrecipes.com/recipe/147109/tortilla-espanola-spanish-tortilla/

No, that is the definition of a pancake. If you want the definition of a pan cake, it would be different.

Pan cake is the etymology of Pancake......
Pan + cake.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Here's another recipe.. http://spanishfood.about.com/od/fl...ake-Recipe-Tortillas-Canarias-de-Carnaval.htm

 

[satx78247]

NOPE.

An AREPA is a "grilled & baked" (YES, they are first grilled & then baked.) corn-flour "flatbread" (about 1/4 inch thick at the edges & 1/2-3/4 inch thick in the center) that are made in Venezuela, Columbia & (sometimes) Ecuador. - Arepas are more like a thicker pita-bread than a pancake.
(Arepas are often sliced open & stuffed with meat/cheese/preserves/other things, as a "portable meal, that is sandwich-like".)

Note: Arepas are so popular in those nations, that they are served in military dining halls EVERY meal 365 days/year.
(And YES, I miss being able to buy hot/fresh arepas from "street & roadside stands", "all over town".)

yours, satx

 

[coloradoclyde]

Cachapas ?

 

[satx78247]

Cachapas are more like American pancakes or flour tortillas than anything else that I can think of that are made "down there". = They are often folded like a taco-shell & filled with some sort of meat/cheese/veggie filling & like a "soft taco" they are tasty but "messy" to eat.
(I often found that I ended up "wearing" the filling rather than eating all of it, as the filling is often "runny". - It's often like trying to eat a taco with a soup for the filling.)

The local folks also "stack" them with fillings between/on top of the "pancakes" & then serve them on a plate with knife & fork.

yours, satx

 

[coloradoclyde]

18th Century Recipe

Boil a large beet-root tender, and beat it fine in a marble mortar, then add the yolks of four eggs, two spoonfuls of flour, and three spoonfuls of good cream, sweeten to your taste, and grate in half a nutmeg, and put in half a glass of brandy; beat them all together half an hour, fry them in butter, and garnish them with green sweet-meats, preserved apricots, or green springs of myrtle. It is a pretty corner dish for either dinner or supper.

”” Glasse, The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy, p. 220.