Replacing lead bullets

[gmww]

Last year we had this "questionaire" from one of the Wa. State departments about replacing lead bullets. They got a lot of opposition. One of the things I pointed out in emails to the lady was that ML hunting regs require lead only. I also explained my opinion on what this really was about.

This year the ML regs changed. Wa. now allows the use of any kind of bullet in the ML. Can you see the writing on the wall?

:shake:

 

[rdillion]

All I can say is BOHICA. Ask a soldier what it means.

 

[Captain outwater]

In traditional ML, nothing but soft lead will work. In inlines, anything could work. Bullets are made of copper, jacketed lead, and who knows what, since they can use sabots.
Your argument was wrong. You said the law required it, so they changed the law. They can not make the law make copper work in your traditional ML. That is science! Of course, they might require you to use gold instead! I don't know of anything else that would work.
Where to really argue with them though, is to ask WHY they have a problem with lead ML balls and bullets? A couple of years ago, some liar said lead bullets put dangerous lead levels in shot meat. This has been repeatedly tested and found to be untrue. Ask for evidence of a problem!

 

[gmww]

Her argument was lead is dangerous to the environment according to studies. I countered with the studies I was familiar with and asked her to tell me about hers rather than just state studies. Of course she didn't provide any.

Since then myself and many others have been in contact with our local state representatives. We have support but we will see. I'm pretty sure they are going to force this on us.

 

[misher]

Guess the next step is forcing us to use Barnes 100% copper roundballs!!!!, wouldn't surprise me.

 

[vern faulkner]

:2 What the heck, the lead came out of the ground didn't it? We're just putting it back where we got it. We ain't increasing the amount any. Vern

 

[MikeC]

All I can say is BOHICA. Ask a soldier what it means.

Or anyone that lives in NJ.

 

[rabjr]

When it finally comes, I'm just going spray paint mine with copper paint. :wink:

 

[Walks with fire]

Pretty much at their mercy and isn't much any of us can do. It's a sad situation; all of it. It's a day to enjoy are freedoms.

 

[misher]

Sad thing is, these are the weapons that the freedom was won with!

 

[Tumblernotch]

Pretty much at their mercy and isn't much any of us can do. It's a sad situation; all of it. It's a day to enjoy are freedoms.

I'm not at their mercy. I'll just keep using lead like the Good Lord intended for me to do.

 

[GBG]

I'd like to ask those conducting the studys if lead is so dangerous to the environment, why do State and Federal governments invite visitors to Federicksburg (largest national battlefield memorial park in the world), not to mention Gettysburg, Shilo, Antietam...where countless lead bullets are still in the ground?

 

[Archer 756]

:surrender: That our goverment, just like there are no terrorist

 

[bigbore442001]

I believe all of us see this as a big crock of you know what.


Now may I ask a question? Could one make a bullet out of bismuth? I know it is used in non toxic shot but would it work well as a single projectile?

 

[Homesteader]

Guess the next step is forcing us to use Barnes 100% copper roundballs!!!!, wouldn't surprise me.

That's when I start melting and running ball from all those pennies I've got.

 

[GBG]

I've been trying to find if there are any historical references to iron balls being used in shoulder fired MLs. Maybe someone knows a source or has experience using them.

 

[Tumblernotch]

Guess the next step is forcing us to use Barnes 100% copper roundballs!!!!, wouldn't surprise me.

That's when I start melting and running ball from all those pennies I've got.

You'll have to use old pennies! Pennies made since 1982 are 99% zinc.

 

[redwing]

The next thing. You will have to have a filter on your muzzle loader barrel. The smoke from your rifle will be adding to the global warming problem. :rotf:

 

[Homesteader]

Guess the next step is forcing us to use Barnes 100% copper roundballs!!!!, wouldn't surprise me.

That's when I start melting and running ball from all those pennies I've got.

You'll have to use old pennies! Pennies made since 1982 are 99% zinc.

Oh man! Bummer... There goes my backup. (Pretty amazing that they've debased even our pennies!)

 

[jderrick]

I asked an uncle of mine who's a geologist -- said in the amounts that I'm using lead and the environments I'm using it in... it doesn't matter, happy shooting.