Rust In The Bore

[Tb54]

Chlorine dissipates when boiled, but chlorides concentrate when boiled. Chloride easily forms into chloride salts like sodium chloride, potassium chloride and calcium chloride.

“Chlorine dissipates when boiled, but chlorides concentrate when boiled.”

Carbon 6, been thinking on this...

Salts will concentrate as water evaporates off, like in a steam boiler or cooling tower, because as the steam flashes, it leaves the dissolved solids behind, “concentrating” them, as the water level decreases, or new water comes in and adds its dissolved solids to the existing mix. I think that’s what you’re referring to. Heating water to a certain temperature while not reducing water level, or adding water to maintain, should only result in the same salts as was in the water when it was cold. And less free chlorine...which was my point. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is how I understand your point

 

[Carbon 6]

“Chlorine dissipates when boiled, but chlorides concentrate when boiled.”

Carbon 6, been thinking on this...

Salts will concentrate as water evaporates off, like in a steam boiler or cooling tower, because as the steam flashes, it leaves the dissolved solids behind, “concentrating” them, as the water level decreases, or new water comes in and adds its dissolved solids to the existing mix. I think that’s what you’re referring to. Heating water to a certain temperature while not reducing water level, or adding water to maintain, should only result in the same salts as was in the water when it was cold. And less free chlorine...which was my point. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is how I understand your point

No, that's not quite it.
Chlorine is a gas used to disinfect water.

Chlorides are chlorine salts already present in your water if it came from the ground and they have not been removed.

Evaporation will concentrate the salts, temperature accelerates evaporation and increases chemical reactions with the salts, like corrosion.

Distilling or a reverse osmosis system will remove the salts from water.

 

[Griz44Mag]

MAP is often mentioned and is something I don’t understand. Peroxide will dissociate readily into water and oxygen. When this happens doesn’t that simply leave water in the bore? And what is the peroxide supposed to be doing anyway?

Drop a dirty nipple into some MAP and watch the fun. It will boil like an open wound. After 5 or 10 minutes all the carbon will have been removed. A light brushing with a soft brush and it's good as new.

 

[Griz44Mag]

I know there are people who truly enjoy cleaning their rifle.

And the problem with that is ?????????
I also enjoy casting, I find it very relaxing. It's just another facet of the sport - some enjoy the sport as a whole - others - not.

 

[Carbon 6]

Drop a dirty nipple into some MAP and watch the fun. It will boil like an open wound. After 5 or 10 minutes all the carbon will have been removed. A light brushing with a soft brush and it's good as new.

Your right about that.
I like to slightly ream the flash hole with a tiny drill bit (by hand) I'm not trying to make the hole larger just restore it to original. I have seen many rust or corrode inside the hole causing them to constrict slightly. reaming restores them when cleaner may not.

I recently cleaned some blackpowder brass cases using RCBS's advice using 50/50 water and vinegar and it boiled slightly too and worked very well.

 

[Leadball loader]

I seem to be staying well ahead of bore rust by using Lanolin based Fluid film as the treatment for my guns after cleaning the fouling from them. It stays on the metal and seals out moisture well with the lanolin wax.
I have learned to wipe out the bore with two dry patches before using several warm water wet patches followed by several dry patches to clean the last of the fouling and dry the bore. It cleans up nicely and is less messy than flushing the barrel with water the way I had done for many years as recommended when I started shooting BP.
LBL

 

[Josephg]

And the problem with that is ?????????
I also enjoy casting, I find it very relaxing. It's just another facet of the sport - some enjoy the sport as a whole - others - not.

Problem?

 

[FishDFly]

There are 18,195 members and there are 18,195 best ways to clean and 18,195 best preventative to stop rust.

In the Comprehensive Corrosion Test, they tested 46 products and ended up with a top 3 which are not mentioned here very often.

Reading here and on other sites and magazines, there is not a singular product or 2 today that most agree on to stop rust.

The best way to start an argument is say a person's way to clean is the best way and their rust preventative is better than anyone else's.

 

[Griz44Mag]

There are 18,195 members and there are 18,195 best ways to clean and 18,195 best preventative to stop rust.

In the Comprehensive Corrosion Test, they tested 46 products and ended up with a top 3 which are not mentioned here very often.

Reading here and on other sites and magazines, there is not a singular product or 2 today that most agree on to stop rust.

The best way to start an argument is say a person's way to clean is the best way and their rust preventative is better than anyone else's.

A+
That subject and about 3 dozen others!!!

 

[kje54]

Rust In The Bore

Sounds like an old age problem....... Consult a Urologist.......

 

[Griz44Mag]

Problem?

Nope - no problem here... Just an observation. Seems like every time someone says they like doing something or doing something a certain way - or doing it at all, 4 or 5 of the local armchair curmudgeons will chime in with a criticism cause it ain't the way that THEY would do it.
(And yes, I have been guilty of being "one of those" but I try to guard against it, cause it's not too polite - ain't that right Brit????)

 

[Grenadier1758]

There are 18,195 members and there are 18,195 best ways to clean and 18,195 best preventative to stop rust.

In the Comprehensive Corrosion Test, they tested 46 products and ended up with a top 3 which are not mentioned here very often.

Reading here and on other sites and magazines, there is not a singular product or 2 today that most agree on to stop rust.

The best way to start an argument is say a person's way to clean is the best way and their rust preventative is better than anyone else's.

No, there's far more than 18,195 best cleaning methods. I have at least 6.
1. Flint lock
2. Percussion lock with hooked breech
3. Percussion lock with fixed breech
4. Flint lock pistol
5. Percussion pistol
6. Revolver