sick of that jackass who writes for NMLRA

[tg]

"I hope your not saying that I was blaming PRB hunters on more wounded animals'

GMBoy I was not blaming you only agreeing with you.

I love a good arguement as
well as anyone but does anyone but me think this has evolved to the pathetic when we are arguing about what to call marbles?

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

I have hobbies that are positive experiences, unlike my NMLRA Experience. Moderate Message Board are ANTI FREE SPEACH.

:bull: :yakyak: :bull:

O.k. lemme try this again, and try to not be so evasive...
Since you are definitely not a member of the NMLRA what do you do in a constructive manner that helps draw interest to traditional muzzleloading or the shooting sports in general, do you contribute money, do you volunteer time, or resources, meybe you host a message board for like minded folks to gather and share information ? Anything at all ? or are you just too selfish an individual to care about the future of this heritage...

There are many that frequent this site that feel the same as you I am thinking, tis a shame...

Thats o.k. I and my fellow individuals will carry your dead weight because somebody has to. :hmm:

 

[roundball]

I love a good arguement as well as anyone but does anyone but me think this has evolved to the pathetic when we are arguing about what to call marbles?

:grin: ...well put...and remember, those are genuine, traditional PC design marbles too...made like that since they were invented.
Where's Claude when you need good moderator action!

 

[Pork Chop]

"I hope your not saying that I was blaming PRB hunters on more wounded animals'

GMBoy I was not blaming you only agreeing with you.

I love a good arguement as
well as anyone but does anyone but me think this has evolved to the pathetic when we are arguing about what to call marbles?

:grin: ...well put...where's Claude when you need a good moderator action!

Double checking the definitions? :haha: :surrender:

 

[Claude Mathis]

As a matter of fact he did mention it, he also mentioned that it did'nt take long for the trouble makers to run it into the ground, wondering if maybe you were a frequent visitor of the board.

I see you expending alot of negative energy towards the NMLRA, what do you currently do to offset this, anything ?

If an NMLRA board did materalize I am sure that all members would be required to have first and last names in their profile, no lurking and stiring up trouble without knowing who it is !

I have hobbies that are positive experiences, unlike my NMLRA Experience. :bull: Moderate Message Board are ANTI FREE SPEACH.

Oh, for heaven sakes. I assume by "free speech" you are referring to the First Amendment to our Constitution? That is a right recognized by the government. I am not the government, nor is this forum a public place. This forum is a private, moderated entity and you have no "rights" here. You are a guest who is "allowed" to speak here.

Why do people always yell "FREE SPEECH" when people disagree with their position?

If you don't like the NMLRA, don't support them, but move on with your life. Who gives a rat's ass what they do, if it doesn't directly affect you?

 

[Claude Mathis]

I wrote my reply above before I realized that this discussion has deteriorated into a comparison of Jackasses vs. Marbles.

I know we have better things to discuss. :haha:

 

[Old Salt]

OLD SALT I see your from one of the top states with members in the NMLRA Pennsylvania. About 2000 plus I think. I'd be lovein it in Penn I've always wanted to see some of your shoots, Blue Mountain Championship, shooot a Lee Hiester flintlock with 2" barrel, all these been going on since 1750 (some shooting matchs) a handbill was shown on another forum that was 1728 I think. Great place to be, my first of 2 flints is a Penn rifle (legal in Penn. IT WAS VERY CHEAP! AND FUUUUUN! Fred :hatsoff:

It is one state that has stuck to it's guns so to speak. The NMLRA territorial match has been at Blue Mountain the last two years. They run a good shoot.

Salt

 

[roundball]

I wrote my reply above before I realized that this discussion has deteriorated into a comparison of Jackasses vs. Marbles.

I know we have better things to discuss. :haha:

Actually, it seemed to add an uplifting quality from where the thread had gone :hmm:

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

It does appear that some jackasses have lost their marbles... :v

 

[jethro224]

:rotf:

 

[faw3]

OLD SALT that was my point, you guys got it together " I think ". The NMLRA that I joined has strayed, see I jumped in after reading Clines book thinking it would be about the same. I have no problems with the other things they use the range for. But when I open ML and a pic of the guy that runs Longhunter is sitting with this big in-line at the bench I know why they don't show Nothing but those when they do show who has shot what with what, just to much for me. You guys in Penn are Longhunters not these that want that 200 yard shot ( Hell I'll put my 451 VOL with the short scope and a 550 gr minie ande do 400 on deer if I still could hunt) (done it and it isnt that hard, 130 grs 2F Swiss and know your points for how far each place is, I even messed with a CW tool you put a string in your mouth and hold out this sliding part till your taget fits in and read the yards - but all of that kind of gets away from being a good hunter.) The Prez said they are going to pull more of the old things they junked because of that survey it will be fun to watch them put stuff in they put out - Oh thats why I bought all the old MB. Fred :hatsoff: Oh ya since it was in MB did the "PREZ" of NMLRA" tell ya he moved from NC I think it said to Friendship? Sounds like hes going to hang on no matter what to that prez thing huh?

 

[faw3]

Just my 2 cents on what have I done...the last thing before I got very sick was send a Ag teacher 2 compleat underhammer rifle kits that I could not aford to do but had them sitting here, he had E'd me asking how the 4-F club could maybe make 2 or 3 so they could start a shooting club. He did send a ck for the postage (I didnt ask for) And this was a good old Texas reb sending those way up north to yank's. Fred :hatsoff:

 

[faw3]

marbles ???? we don't need no stinking marbles :rotf: now this is getting good! Fred :hatsoff:

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

As a matter of fact he did mention it, he also mentioned that it did'nt take long for the trouble makers to run it into the ground, wondering if maybe you were a frequent visitor of the board.

I see you expending alot of negative energy towards the NMLRA, what do you currently do to offset this, anything ?

If an NMLRA board did materalize I am sure that all members would be required to have first and last names in their profile, no lurking and stiring up trouble without knowing who it is !

I have hobbies that are positive experiences, unlike my NMLRA Experience. :bull: Moderate Message Board are ANTI FREE SPEACH.

Oh, for heaven sakes. I assume by "free speech" you are referring to the First Amendment to our Constitution? That is a right recognized by the government. I am not the government, nor is this forum a public place. This forum is a private, moderated entity and you have no "rights" here. You are a guest who is "allowed" to speak here.


Why do people always yell "FREE SPEECH" when people disagree with their position?

Right you are Claude, we are your guests and should behave as such. Sometimes people are just too in love with their own opinions.

If you don't like the NMLRA, don't support them, but move on with your life. Who gives a rat's ass what they do, if it doesn't directly affect you?

Another good point. :applause:
Seems like this is the thread that will not die.

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

:hatsoff: :thumbsup: :hatsoff:

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

Still waiting on a reply...

Do you do anything at all to support our shooting heritage, or are you just alot of hot air with an ax to grind? maybe you are confused by your own statements.

:hmm: :yakyak: :hmm:

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Zonie--are we talking about Al Raychard's column? Because if we are, I cannot recall him ever knocking traditional muzzleloaders. Even in the article in the August issue, he doesn't heap praise on in-lines, just on his wife. Who wouldn't feel the same?

Russ with all do respect you still are not getting it.
First do any of you easterners defending Al and the NMLRA for allowing the slanted article even aware of Idaho's ruling?
Lets back up.
We were all asked to add our two pennys Agreeing or disagreeing with Idaho no longer allowing inlines.
Most of us said no inlines.
After much to do Idaho settled on alowing inlines but with exposed nipple,loose powder,open sites all lead projectile.
A good give and take that we all( inliners and trad hunters) could live with.
Than along comes AL in a publication we westerners get but don't really feel included in.
And says Idaho's contraversal ruling( against inlines) that is still contraversal ( no scopes allowed, short range afair)
Nothing about allTHE work everybody did trying to make it fair for all hunters during, GET THIS a primitive season.
Nope it's still contraversal and a short range afair.
That is what ****** me off as well as many of MY WESTERN COUNTERPARTS.
Sorry about the JACKASS REMARK but after we all struggled to find common ground along comes a Eastern publication with a writer making smart ass remarks.
YUP I saw his wife he is so proud of and her thumb hold stock single shot scoped rifle in what used to be a traditional mag during what used to be a traditional season.
Remember the good old days when the advertisments were for T.C Lyman, CVA rifles etc...
I am still a member of the NMLRA even tho I wasen't and non of us westerners were askes to take their survey at least non I know of.
As for being proud, I am very proud of MY wife who hunts traditional during a not so traditional season ANYMORE here in CO.

I AM NOT IN TO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND WILL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK AND IF YOU FEEL I AM HIDEING BEHIND MY LAP TOP PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME
Nathan Blanchard
970-209-8925

 

[Claude Mathis]

Sorry about the JACKASS REMARK...

I have to say that I didn't find the "Jackass" remark offensive at all. I actually thought it was rather polite, considering what could be said in a discussion of Traditional vs. in-line hunting.

I also thought your original post was appropriate. Surely a member of an organization has the right to give his opinion of the "product" he's receiving. Had the gist of this thread remained on topic (the article itself) I think we would have been better off, but as usual, mentioning the NMLRA seems to bring out the entire history of the organization, again (and again, and again).

 

[jethro224]

Than along comes AL in a publication we westerners get but don't really feel included in.
And says Idaho's contraversal ruling( against inlines) that is still contraversal ( no scopes allowed, short range afair)
Nothing about allTHE work everybody did trying to make it fair for all hunters during, GET THIS a primitive season.
Nope it's still contraversal and a short range afair.
That is what ****** me off as well as many of MY WESTERN COUNTERPARTS.

"In January, Idaho Fish and Game Commissioners dropped the provision that muzzleloaders have an extended pivoting hammer during the state's muzzleloading-only hunting seasons. In essence, this means in-lines will now be considered legal firearms, which reverses last year's controversial decisions that prohibited their use. Increasingly, Idaho muzzleloading hunters have been in favor of updating the state's muzzleloader regulations. Public comments taken by the Commissioners prior to the rule change found far more favored allowing in-lines than those opposed.

The Commissioners did not back off from other muzzleloader restrictions, however, which are also controversial in some quarters, and some enthusiasts would also like to see them changed, but at present the Commissioners are sticking to their guns and keeping muzzleloader hunting in the state a short-range affair. As a consequence, the use of scopes, pellets, sabots and jacketed projectiles, 209 primers and priming mechanisms other than flint, percussion cap or musket cap will still be prohibited during muzzleloader hunts. For more information visit the Idaho Fish and Game web site at www.fishandgame.idaho.gov or telephone 208-334-3700."

controversial, adj. that is or can be much argued about; debatable

Obviously he was correct. We are up to 8 pages of argument and debate. I'd guess the issue is controversial. :hmm:
I still don't see where he "slammed" traditional or advocated modern. Just reported the facts. I also still don't see why that pisses anyone off.

Why not be ****** off at the Idaho game dept. instead?

 

[bingo1952]

This topic needs to die a quick Natural Death. JMO :v